Did that just happen??? The "score" revisited.

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Yeah, I've talked about this subject before...That legendary occurrence whereby a hobbyist somehow beats the system and ends up grabbing an incredibly rare coral or fish from the unknowing LFS...It's happened to many of us over the years- you incredulously grab something that was either mismarked, misidentified, or just passed over as "clearance" or "common", or even outright forgotten, that turns out to be a darn near "Holy Grail" find.

It happened to a friend of mine just a couple of days ago (His name and location will be withheld, lol). He had a hunch, and ended up scoring an incredibly rare Basslet from an LFS that was, on the surface, washed out, dull, and just another grayish fish in the "bargain bin", and it turned out to be an incredibly rare specimen...of course, this jarred some memories and brought up that moral quandary...

We’ve all heard of this kind of thing before: The “Aquarium Urban Myth.” You know, the reefer that supposedly spotted a Centropyge interrupt at Petco, mismarked as a “Yellow Tail Damsel” for $3.00, or the The guy who scored the “Walt Disney” Tennis at the LFS for $15, simply labeled “Acro frag” or something like that. Or, you hear the legend that Steve Tyree once bought off of an entire colony of seemingly dull Acro in the LFS display tank for $25.00, because it was a rare “Purple Monster.”

You know, that kind of stuff.

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Koji-san wouldn't mistake a juvenile C. interrupt for a Damsel, but some worker at the transpire or LFS employee just might...

It keeps the hobby moving, talking, and inspires us in- well, strange ways. Much like the elusive winning lottery ticket bought at the local liquor store, such tales have motivated countless reefers over the years to keep looking, keep digging in the LFS and pet shops around the world, looking for that elusive, as yet-un-named rarity that might just be staring them right in the face.


You know how it feels to score something like that, too, right? After your discovery, you compose yourself, then nonchalantly ask the LFS employee to grab it from the tank and bag it up for you, all the while pretending to stifle a yawn, while inside, all that your thinking is “Please don’t let my buddies from the reef club show up right now! Please don't let my buddies from the reef club show up right now...!” You know that they’ll be the first to say, “WOW! How much are you paying for that “Pikachu” frag? That’s like $100! You didn’t get it from the ‘All Frags $5’ tank, did you? That must have been a mistake!”

No, no NO! I mean, you are probably filled with guilt, uncertainty, and perhaps, a bit of apprehension...but this is YOUR moment. Your score...

You rush home with your new found acquisition, all the while praying that you’re not being followed by the LFS employee, who suddenly realized his/her mistake! You even vary the route home, just in case there is someone tailing you! Yeah, you’ve watched all of the Bourne movies..

You race online, and confirm what you already knew: That was a SCORE!

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Hmm, not a "Greenish Tenuis" frag? "Pikachu", perhaps?

A mixture of guilt and contentment, right? On the other hand, "they" should have known better, right? Umm, hmm...

We’ve all had this guilty pleasure before; this moral quandary: The exhilaration, dashed with a tinge of guilt at having “beaten the system.” Of course, you rationalize your "triumph" by concluding that it’s better that the coral or fish ended up in the hands of the person best suited for its care: YOU!

As both a hobbyist and a business owner having been on both sides of the fence before. On one hand, you "should know better" if you're in this game- it's your livelihood. On the other hand, we're only human. Mistakes happen, especially at shows or during sales, when there is lots of chaos and people and distraction. You could have put something back in the wrong place, right next to the less expensive, almost look-alike (when the rare coral is not under optimum conditions) species, or simply not caught it when you were shuffling stuff, unpacking a shipment...whatever. Or maybe, you simply couldn't ID the boring soft coral anyways...Human error.

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"Ohh, that wasn't a Cirrhilabrus laboutei? What's a "Cirrhilabrus cf. lanceolatus", anyways?

Now, there are just a few "reefers" who live for this kind of stuff. Want to "burn" the LFS to "get back at them for spending all that money over the years"...or to "teach them" some kind of "business lesson." Whatever. They're probably the same kind of guys that hope someone calls in a bomb threat to their work, so they get the day off. Yeah. Few and far in between, mercifully...but out there, nonetheless.

A lot of reefers score cool stuff because they simply see something no one else can see in an otherwise "ordinary" animal. They have a "gut feeling" or hunch about something, and it turns out to be correct beyond their wildest dreams. Nothing really wrong there. Sometimes an ugly duckling simply turns out to be a swan. No more quandary there.

On the other hand, as a hobbyist, do you have a moral obligation to tell the LFS person they screwed up when you KNOW they mislabeled that incredibly rare specimen, or when the new guy nets the wrong one in a crowded tank? I've actually had the good fortune to have had reefers point out stuff like that to me before...usually happens on day 3 of a MACNA, when you're sleep deprived, hungry, and thinking about catching your afternoon flight home. And it's appreciated, believe me.

On the other hand, it sometimes happens when a coral or fish just doesn't show well, and is misclassified or otherwise gives a nondescript appearance that would throw just about ANYONE off. SO, you played a hunch and it turned out to be right. Or maybe, just maybe, you like dull fish...or your significant other felt sorry for it and you bought it to appease him/her, especially after that incident last week, when the calcium reactor overflowed onto the new hardwood floor...Perhaps no one at the LFS would have believed you anyways, because they paid $7 for that wrasse, and probably gave their jobber or employee a hard time about throwing in some "box filler" like that.

Sigh...so, that's the way that "scores" happen. Good, bad, right or wrong...they happen. And some hobbyists win...Perhaps even the LFS feels they got the best part of the deal, because they finally got rid of that grey fish or coral that always looks closed up- good riddance, in their opinion. Kharma, or just a confluence of random stuff?

Sigh...

SO, time for confessions. Who has had such a score? What did you score? And how did things work out?


Pics and stories encouraged!


You take it from here, ok?



And as always,


Stay Wet.



Scott Fellman
Unique Corals
 
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well when I was younger agway used to sell freshwater fish and the whole key to beating the system was find the same tank with 2 of the same sub species ,, like a cory cat and whatever 4 line cat was in the cat. Id just ask for the cheaper one..they didn't know ..shame on me but I was making $5 an hr at the time..lol to me I want to go to a pet store where I don't have to tell the person what the fish is or they have to look at the glass to see what they wrote down . How can you give someone advice on something if you have no clue what it is ???? To me that's why doing your own research is one of the most important things in this hobby . I bought some tangnikyan cichlids and the girl at the lfs told me they weren't from Africa and she's been working there 3 years . to me Its part of the employers jobs to educate them to actually give people advice on what they are selling .. I think it works both ways sometimes too, ill put this acro on the bargain bin even though its been infested with flatworms , they might not notice .
 
WoW Scott, something has to be up.............. that early on the front.
No I never had it happen to me, well maybe a coral or two maybe three but when corals entering my tank after their QT time they lose their given name and go only by color, lots easier to take track of and sometimes color is changing so as the color name too over time.
Great start of the week with this.
 
to me Its part of the employers jobs to educate them to actually give people advice on what they are selling ...
While I haven't pulled one over at my LFS, I have been buying something where instead of checking the price for themselves, the person ringing me up for a fish or coral will just ask me what the price was for it. I can imagine some people have saved a buck or two or ten from this.
 
Found this aberrant angel at the LFS. This is the actual cell pic I sent John Coppolino from the store about 10 years ago. John ran out and picked it up under for $50. I never saw it in John's system, but he did tell me that it actually reverted to a traditional coloring. I'm not an angel guy, so I don't even know what it was!

 
Interesting stories...It's funny, because on one hand, it's fun to hear of this kind of stuff, but on the other hand, it's kind of a bummer for someone else...assuming they knew what they sold. Of course, one could make the argument that ignorance doesn't deserve pity...Or does it?...Ahh, the moral quandary.
 
This may not be the find of the decade, but I bought an ORA Goldflake Maroon at Petco for $15. He was labeled as a regular GSM.
 
I also picked up this Cirrhilabrus Scottorum (Cook Islands I believe?) 4 years years ago from my LFS for only $65. She doesn't charge market prices, only uses a standard markup based on cost.

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I picked up a diamond tail flasher wrasse from a local store. I'm assuming the young gentleman working that Sunday had no idea what he had as he told me the unmarked fish was $80 and with a club discount I paid $59. Yes, $59. Score.
 
I'm lucky to get a fish in I specifically order, so no, hasn't happened to me. I could have gotten a nice blasto frag at half off because the LFS's wife was helping run the booth at our frag swap last year, but I double checked with the owner as I knew her price was wrong. I still bought it, just didn't feel right as I knew under normal circumstances that mistake wouldn't have happened. If something were to come in mislabeled and be a rare gem I wouldn't pass it up for the cheap price. This particular LFS only has one employee other than the owner running it and they both know a good bit about the hobby so chances are slim but anything is possible.
 
I live for the bargain. The Hunt. The Game. Repeated trips to stores big and small, websites, forums, etc. Maybe some guy is getting rid of some stuff to upgrade or work calls him away and he needs to liquidate, literally, ha. I also have a terrible habit of pulling over for gas cans and tools on the highway. I'm totally down for the "Score".
 
Haha, nothing to spectacular. One time in an lfs, I was just checking out the Bettas (freshwater) and spotted one that was priced (in those little bowls) at 5.99. I don't know anything about rarity but I did know this fish usually about 30.00. So I took it up to the counter and the Asian owner looks at his partner and scowls something in Chinese. I chuckled and said it's priced wrong isn't it. He smiled and said yes but I could have it at that price. Can't say I felt all that guilty as this store (the only one downtown) is grossly overpriced and I still shop there at least once a week to buy live blood worms and the odd overpriced item. So they have gotten their share of business for me. That betta has been in a 5 g on the kitchen counter for almost 2 years now. When I tap the glass it scoots over like a puppy.
 
Think Sundays the chances are better for the newer less experienced lfs employees... hehehe!
 
It's funny that you mentioned Cirrhilabrus cf. lanceolatus because I just scored a nice fat male for $120. Not quite a steal but certainly a bargain I think. In my defense I came in one day and saw it labeled "pintail wrasse." I asked the employees about it and they kinda shrugged. I knew they were thinking, "Do you want it or not, I'm busy." I came back the next day and got it after asking if they knew the Latin name, which they did not. I almost think they thought I was crazy asking that sort of question. I took this to mean they were making a profit it on it from what they paid wholesale, yet they didn't really know the fishes true value.

The way I see it, I took $120 gamble on this being lanceolatus and not Cirrhilabrus roseafascia. At the store it was faded and hard to say it was one or the other. It turned out in my favor and after treating it it for flukes, I now have a rare and beautiful addition. In the end the store made a profit, albeit not as much as they could have.

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I lean more towards "treat people as you would want to be treated". Call it kharma, call it being polite, whatever. Now, if someone buys a browned out coral, and it recovers in their system, and turns out to be a speciman of high value, more power to them. They have the husbandry skills to take a chance. But hoping to scoop up mislabeled items is not my thing. I don't think anyone should get giddy if your LFS cashier is ringing up a Kessil 360 for the price of a 150. You'd be walking out of the store a crook, IMHO.
 
Not the most superb deal, but I had the chance to get a royal flasher wrasse for $30 at PetCo. It came in as a filamented. I didn't buy it at the time (even though I love flasher wrasses and don't have this one) because of not being able to be home to take care of it in QT. I did tell them what hey had though one I confirmed the ID with one of the other wrasse-heads here. If by some chance it's still there in a couple of days, I may scoop him up.
 

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