Dino explosion after using Vibrant
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yes, pretty much all vibrant users have that invasion shift. same for chemi clean users too
adding dosers and meds is bad because what you see in the occasional win post rarely transmits to an actual live time tank job. that being said, valonia is really hard to beat and you had few other options.
you're now into choosing how you handle dinos, which can be as bad. you should rip clean your tank immediately to remove the built up and decaying waste from the vibrant treatment, but that's only if you want a strong chance of winning. most people won't do that, and take their chances with the new invasion using other additives. GHA comes next in the phase shift due to in-tank treatments. rip cleans can't cause any tradeoff invasion, which is why I use them so much in work jobs.
adding dosers and meds is bad because what you see in the occasional win post rarely transmits to an actual live time tank job. that being said, valonia is really hard to beat and you had few other options.
you're now into choosing how you handle dinos, which can be as bad. you should rip clean your tank immediately to remove the built up and decaying waste from the vibrant treatment, but that's only if you want a strong chance of winning. most people won't do that, and take their chances with the new invasion using other additives. GHA comes next in the phase shift due to in-tank treatments. rip cleans can't cause any tradeoff invasion, which is why I use them so much in work jobs.
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Ive used vibrant a few times. I went slow, 1/3rd the calculated dose once per week for a week or two, than 1/2 twice per week for a couple months. Both times successful at removing an absolute plague of bubble algae. No adverse effects, nor loss of coral.
I did test more frequently but did not notice any unusual parameters before/after.
I did test more frequently but did not notice any unusual parameters before/after.
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FWIW, using chemical pesticides such as Vibrant have the potential to harm more than the unwanted pest, and may not be the best way to go.
Sorry I have an old old old iPhone. I am using a turkey baster ever hour to blast off the sps. All my parameters went out of wack. DKH went from 8.3 to over 10. Mag went from 1350 to 920. Cal is around 420. N03 and P04 went to 0. This tank is 6 years old. SPS lost all reds and pinks instantly.
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Agree with this. I was hesitant the 2nd time, as the first time was prior to the long thread about it here.
I will say that i do believe theres an impact to the overall system/bacteria, however my nitrates/phosphates didn't seem to be impacted much.
I have unsucessfully tried:
-foxface
-emerald crabs
-manual removal
I was legitimately being over ran and it was extremely unsightly.
One natural remedy that seems to work 2/2 times for me, for maintenace are Naso tangs.
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Did you dose directly to display or sump? Double checked dose for water volume? That sounds like a separate issue, either unrelated or exacerbated by vibrant dosing. Calibrate salinity and double check? Hard to see that much mag disapearing without a salinity swing.
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Ah i definitely wouldnt recommend that, you have to think about how concentrated that dose is going in there before its fully mixed. I typically do not dose anything other than phyto/aminos to the display, everything goes in first chamber of sump to dilute and mix prior to heading up to the display to further mix.
I still dont see an accurate dose doing all of that to your parameters unless it impact the water in a manner thats causing incorrect test results (i.e. clarity for hanna checkers).
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It's not uncommon, when using a chemical algaecide for one class of algae to be stressed or killed, and another less susceptible type to increase in response. To some extent it is re-released nutrients from the dying algae, also partly its just other organisms filling the niche.
The most common version of this is for cyano to slime up over the dying green algae.
The most common version of this is for cyano to slime up over the dying green algae.
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Very common issue post vibrant. My sequence in a smaller 20g tank was:
0. Nuisance free tank for 12 months (mostly)
1. Bubble algae
2. Vibrant
3. Clear tank
4. GHA / Cyano explosion (killed everything but the fish)
5. Varios chemicals
6. Rip Clean / bottomed out Nutrients
7. Diatoms
8. Dinos
9. Blackout + pump nutrients. Dino’s defeated
10. GHA
11. Give up and get a bigger tank and not dose chemicals
0. Nuisance free tank for 12 months (mostly)
1. Bubble algae
2. Vibrant
3. Clear tank
4. GHA / Cyano explosion (killed everything but the fish)
5. Varios chemicals
6. Rip Clean / bottomed out Nutrients
7. Diatoms
8. Dinos
9. Blackout + pump nutrients. Dino’s defeated
10. GHA
11. Give up and get a bigger tank and not dose chemicals
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Dealing with similar issue after using vibrant to eradicate bubble algae. Never will use vibrant again. Dealing with Dino’s for a month. Daily dosing nitrate, phosphate, silicate, tried UV now. Basting off what strands get stuck on my SPS …ticking me off. Hope it all goes away soon. Any tips? How long did it take for yours to go away?
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I used Algaefix from API to get rid of bubble algae, get extra power heads and put sponge filters over them, turn them up and when they get clogged with bubble algae remove the bubble algae and repeat. I believe the Algaefix caused the bubble algae to de-attache.
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I used vibrant as believed the lies on the bottle about it being natural not an algaecide firstly it did nothing good for the tank killed my long standing scolly ,killed my cheato which grew like crazy even years later after many water changes I still can't grow it anymore and gave me dinos which I can't get rid of no mater what now going bare bottom in final desperation . Can't believe they are still allowed to sell it .
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They changed the label finally, you must have old stock.
Did you do the recommended dose?
I would try mixing some bacteria and food and dosing that to your tank to see if you can forcibly out compete the dinos with bacteria.
