Dino's or another Diatom bloom?

[George Willings]

What I am thinking is Dino's has me second and third guessing myself now. Had my tank on a 3 day black out, and they appeared anyway. Removed the cover to acclimate some new cerith snails I got today (some are dead, and some I think are dead so wont be ordering from that place again), and there it is, it came back while it was covered and zero light getting in. Stingy snot like substance, just no bubbles.

 

[saltyhog]

Doesn't look like diatoms to me. Get a sample and look at it under a microscope if you can. Then you know for sure.

 

[George Willings]

The weird thing is that there are zero bubbles with it.

 

[Artillerydrill]

The weird thing is that there are zero bubbles with it.

I’ve got dino in my tank with zero bubbles and it’s that exact color

 

[George Willings]

Artillerydrill thanks for the info, this sucks. Looks like I get to buy a reactor for carbon and GFO, some kalkwasser and does peroxide to kill it, then do another big water change.

 

[Artillerydrill]

I wish it wasn’t so but it’s better to be informed than not in this situation. I’ve been dosing nitrate and phosphate for the past two days and it’s receding

 

[George Willings]

Yeah, and I just finished killing cyano.

 

[Artillerydrill]

Yeah, and I just finished killing cyano.

When i got rid of dino the first time cyano replaced it, i killed all cyano (175g) and everything looked good for a while but the dino came back. Sometimes our aquariums just step out of balance through human interference(IMO). In my case i decided to dose NoPox for some some reason even though my number were reasonable. Never knew what dino was before the nopox dose.

 

[George Willings]

Yep mine when ballistic when I put mysis in to feed, and so did my wife and my youngest. That was all in 1 day, 3 cubes of mysis. So looks like I need to dose phosphate and nitrates into the tank along with kalkwasser to raise the PH to 8.5, or go the route of peroxide but it could come back with the peroxide method. I have read up and that research told me with the peroxide method lighting has some play to it. Like running only blue lights for a few days and gradually bringing up the whites and ultraviolet's.

Last night I siphoned out a lot of the dino's last night, had the ultraviolet's on and they grew fast as all hell. I shut down all whites and ultraviolet's to 0 and not even turning on. Only lights I have coming on are blue lights.

 

[Artillerydrill]

Yep mine when ballistic when I put mysis in to feed, and so did my wife and my youngest. That was all in 1 day, 3 cubes of mysis. So looks like I need to dose phosphate and nitrates into the tank along with kalkwasser to raise the PH to 8.5, or go the route of peroxide but it could come back with the peroxide method. I have read up and that research told me with the peroxide method lighting has some play to it. Like running only blue lights for a few days and gradually bringing up the whites and ultraviolet's.

Last night I siphoned out a lot of the dino's last night, had the ultraviolet's on and they grew fast as all hell. I shut down all whites and ultraviolet's to 0 and not even turning on. Only lights I have coming on are blue lights.

That could help, i did a 3 day blackout and doses peroxide which killed everything but at the time my nutrients were still not in check so it didn’t make a difference in the end they came back in 5-10 days

 

[George Willings]

To add nutrients back without dosing phos and nitrates, wondering if slightly over feeding would help? Or addung more fish as right now I have 2 clowns, 2 Trochus snails, 5 Nassarius snails, and 4 hermits, a favia brain and a purple tip hammer with 3 heads.

 

[Artillerydrill]

To add nutrients back without dosing phos and nitrates, wondering if slightly over feeding would help? Or addung more fish as right now I have 2 clowns, 2 Trochus snails, 5 Nassarius snails, and 4 hermits, a favia brain and a purple tip hammer with 3 heads.

That’s what most people opt to do i think is overfeed but it’s not precise in the fact that there isn’t really a calculator to measure what impacts the food will have on po4

 

[Artillerydrill]

That’s what most people opt to do i think is overfeed but it’s not precise in the fact that there isn’t really a calculator to measure what impacts the food will have on po4

Or no3 for that matter

 

[George Willings]

Then I guess I will dose PO4, NO3, and peroxide once I get the reactor in place. Might be overkill, but I want to kill the dino's.

 

[George Willings]

Well, I have been keeping all light out of the tank, and running only my actinic lights, stirring the sand every time I see that Dino's have come back, and slight over feeding. Sooooo, I get home from work yesterday afternoon, and notice that there are only 2 very small signs of Dino's, so I stir up the sand once again. This time I turned on the white lights and the UV lights with the actinic lights, the UV lights and white lights were only on for an hour. None of the Dino's grew back, as of this morning still no signs of Dino's. So it certainly looks like I beat it, at least for now. I am still going to get everything I will need to fight them if they decide to return. Keeping fingers crossed that I just got lucky.

 

[Artillerydrill]

Well, I have been keeping all light out of the tank, and running only my actinic lights, stirring the sand every time I see that Dino's have come back, and slight over feeding. Sooooo, I get home from work yesterday afternoon, and notice that there are only 2 very small signs of Dino's, so I stir up the sand once again. This time I turned on the white lights and the UV lights with the actinic lights, the UV lights and white lights were only on for an hour. None of the Dino's grew back, as of this morning still no signs of Dino's. So it certainly looks like I beat it, at least for now. I am still going to get everything I will need to fight them if they decide to return. Keeping fingers crossed that I just got lucky.

Good to hear

 

[George Willings]

Got home, and they were back, BUT, still just very minor. Stirred up he sand and they have not reappeared as of yet, and I have been home for 2 hours now.

 

[George Willings]

Had lights off for a while, turned the UV lights back on tonight as I was only able to see just a few strands of dino's. I did add 3 trochus snails, and a brittle star that is about 10 in across right now, so it is safe to say I am already planning to upgrade to a larger tank, lol.

 

[George Willings]

No signs of dino's at this point, so slowly ramping up the uv lights, once those are ramped up I begin the whites. Although next week I am getting the AI Prime HD so I start the acclimation mode with that. lol