Dinos?

[Reffetsevla]

Not all dinos go into the water colum at night.

Truth, best way to combat them is a combination approach. I use UV for any suspended in the column (and 24/7 now) and try to help culture a competing bacteria to beat it. Need to starve them, whether it's light or nutrients. Best way to get them under control.

 

[MACHO]

I think I see dino in one pic but you need to help us out here. A couple of pics under white lighting will help with assessment
Dino does not always have bubbles until accelerated stage. Starts stringy

 

[MACHO]

Looks like blue review. Rocks are not brown, there blue!
Any pics in white light?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hate to say but need pics under white lights
Looks like cyano but unconfirmed

 

[Reef.]

Truth, best way to combat them is a combination approach. I use UV for any suspended in the column (and 24/7 now) and try to help culture a competing bacteria to beat it. Need to starve them, whether it's light or nutrients. Best way to get them under control.

Everything I’ve read says to add nutrients not to reduce nutrients.

 

[MACHO]

Hate to say but need pics under white lights
Looks like cyano but unconfirmed

The are pics above your post with new pics.

 

[MACHO]

Hate to say but need pics under white lights
Looks like cyano but unconfirmed

The are pics above your post with new pics

Hate to say but need pics under white lights
Looks like cyano but unconfirmed

 

[Reffetsevla]

Everything I’ve read says to add nutrients not to reduce nutrients.

You need to starve the dinos by using competing bacteria to outpace them. This does require you raise nutrients, that is correct. Sorry wasn't super clear on that. Weed be danged.

 

[MACHO]

You need to starve the dinos by using competing bacteria to outpace them. This does require you raise nutrients, that is correct. Sorry wasn't super clear on that. Weed be danged.

I’m dosing nopox should I replace that with microbactor7?

 

[Reffetsevla]

I’m dosing nopox should I replace that with microbactor7?

I would stop the nopox dosing as that states it reduces your nutrients. I personally don't have experience with either of those. The trick is you need to raise nutrients, but you need the bacteria/pods there to to help feed on it. Personally I dosed Apex Pods one week, Tigger Pods the next, then fed live phytoplankton for a week. I overfed the tank a little bit too, no skimmer and reduced water changes. This got more nutrients in tank so my LR could establish more, it provided them a source of food in the phyto. I have dosing stuff on standby for emergency's, but I tried to handle mine without too much outside aid. Only external thing I really added was a UV sterilizer, it did help IMO.

Research on your own, look up what you can, don't take any one persons advise as gospel (esp me) but try to find a good approach you are comfortable with. For me it was pods and phyto, for you it could be dosing bacteria and such, entirely up to you. Many ways to tackle every issue.

Everything I’ve read says to add nutrients not to reduce nutrients.

Also I meant starving them of their nutrient source. By either having competing sources beat it on NO3/PO4 or reduce light, which will starve the dinos but the bacteria and such won't care as much. I sometimes forget to complete my thoughts.

 

[Reef.]

I’m dosing nopox should I replace that with microbactor7?

They are completely different things, one is removing stuff the other is adding stuff.

Your tank looks very new, the rocks are still white, I would not be adding nopox, yes keep nutrients in control but in a new tank you shouldn’t be needing nopox, you want algae to grow, that adds life to the tank, with it bacteria etc a clean tank is not want you want, especially being so new, get it dirty.

 

[MACHO]

I would stop the nopox dosing as that states it reduces your nutrients. I personally don't have experience with either of those. The trick is you need to raise nutrients, but you need the bacteria/pods there to to help feed on it. Personally I dosed Apex Pods one week, Tigger Pods the next, then fed live phytoplankton for a week. I overfed the tank a little bit too, no skimmer and reduced water changes. This got more nutrients in tank so my LR could establish more, it provided them a source of food in the phyto. I have dosing stuff on standby for emergency's, but I tried to handle mine without too much outside aid. Only external thing I really added was a UV sterilizer, it did help IMO.

Research on your own, look up what you can, don't take any one persons advise as gospel (esp me) but try to find a good approach you are comfortable with. For me it was pods and phyto, for you it could be dosing bacteria and such, entirely up to you. Many ways to tackle every issue.

Also I meant starving them of their nutrient source. By either having competing sources beat it on NO3/PO4 or reduce light, which will starve the dinos but the bacteria and such won't care as much. I sometimes forget to complete my thoughts.

Plan is to dose Live Phyto and microbactor7 while no skimmer for a week. Hopefully my acros will be fine I don’t wanna deal with a uv so that’s a no for me

 

[Reef.]

what size tank? (sorry if I missed it), UV can be very helpful, depending on the size of tank, a drop in UV might be an option, no need for pumping in.

 

[MACHO]

what size tank (sorry if I missed it) UV can be very helpful, depending on the size of tank, a drop in UV might be an option, no need for pumping in.

220 gallon

 

[Reef.]

220 gallon

Scrub the drop in idea then

 

[MACHO]

Scrub the drop in idea then

Did have an established 2 year reef but had to restart due to aptasia lol I would much rather fight this than aptasia any day

 

[Reef.]

Did have an established 2 year reef but had to restart due to aptasia lol I would much rather fight this than aptasia any day

I would expect most people to say the opposite…not sure if anyone has mentioned removal yet? can be very helpful as part of the solution, adding a very fine filter sock or wool, also laying strips over your powerheads and turkey basting the rocks and sand really helps, gets them in the water column, it won’t eliminate them buts helps.

 

[MACHO]

I would expect most people to say the opposite…not sure if anyone has mentioned removal yet? can be very helpful as part of the solution, adding a very fine filter sock or wool, also laying strips over your powerheads and turkey basting the rocks and sand really helps, gets them in the water column, it won’t eliminate them buts helps.

I’ll keep everyone updated on the progress took 2 weeks for this to arise hopefully 2 weeks to remove

 

[Jedi Knghit]

I would expect most people to say the opposite…not sure if anyone has mentioned removal yet? can be very helpful as part of the solution, adding a very fine filter sock or wool, also laying strips over your powerheads and turkey basting the rocks and sand really helps, gets them in the water column, it won’t eliminate them buts helps.

After spending 9 months dealing with dinos? Lol, give me the aptasia please

 

[aggrofish]

It doesn’t seem like you have much life on your rock anyway. I’d get your parameters in check, replace the sand and scrub all the rock.