Dipping for Dino's?

Jeeperz · Apr 3, 2020

I'm transferring some corals to my large tank before the GHA kills them. I think I also have Dino's, but only on 1 coral do I get the long strings. On my candy cane trumpet coral. I've read that h2o2 or rodi can be used to kill Dino's on coral. Are either safe on a trumpet or hammer/frammer corals?

Jeeperz · Apr 10, 2020

Bump? Also, best dip for hair algae on Monti cap?

Beardo · Apr 12, 2020

I tried both rodi water and diluted peroxide and still transferred dinos. Dipping may kill the active dinos but don't believe it killed any encysted.

Idoc · Apr 12, 2020

I've had good success with dipping LPS corals with H2O2 mixture (50/50) with tank water. I have also done quick freshwater dips with LPS corals as well. Freshwater (RODI) actually kills most dinos almost on contact by breaking their cell wall.

There's a good chance that if you have two tanks...they are already in both tanks anyhow. But, maybe the tank not showing dinos present just has a better eco-system to suppress them.

Idoc · Apr 12, 2020

Jeeperz said:
Bump? Also, best dip for hair algae on Monti cap?

Harder one here...not much success with dipping SPS with peroxide! In fact, it has melted the one's I've attempted it on in the past.

Jeeperz · Apr 12, 2020

My other 3 tanks show no signs but that doesn't mean much. The big tank is just set up, so I'm sure it's the worst ecosystem but shows no signs, it is all new, nothing transferred. What I find interesting is that the Dino's are only appearing on my trumpet coral, nothing else. Snails don't appear to be dieing either, lots of GHA/bha

Jeeperz · Apr 12, 2020

Idoc said:
Harder one here...not much success with dipping SPS with peroxide! In fact, it has melted the one's I've attempted it on in the past.

I scrubbed a few sps with reef dip mix and toothbrush but the GHA came back a few days later. Any clue if coral rx would do better? Ive had bad luck with coral rx in the past. Maybe I'll keep scrubbing them with toothbrush.

Jeeperz · Apr 12, 2020

Idoc said:
I've had good success with dipping LPS corals with H2O2 mixture (50/50) with tank water. I have also done quick freshwater dips with LPS corals as well. Freshwater (RODI) actually kills most dinos almost on contact by breaking their cell wall.

There's a good chance that if you have two tanks...they are already in both tanks anyhow. But, maybe the tank not showing dinos present just has a better eco-system to suppress them.

How long should I dip them at 50/50? I can also do h2o2 on toothbrush and scrub the skeleton.

Idoc · Apr 13, 2020

Jeeperz said:
I scrubbed a few sps with reef dip mix and toothbrush but the GHA came back a few days later. Any clue if coral rx would do better? Ive had bad luck with coral rx in the past. Maybe I'll keep scrubbing them with toothbrush.

Coral Rx won't do anything for algae... just pests.

Idoc · Apr 13, 2020

Jeeperz said:
How long should I dip them at 50/50? I can also do h2o2 on toothbrush and scrub the skeleton.

With a 50/50 mixture, maybe 5 min at most should help a lot with LPS. The coral will be ticked afterwards for a few days.

Be careful with the toothbrush on the coral itself... can damage the skin.

If really concerned with the plug, remove and use a new one.

Jeeperz · Apr 13, 2020

Ok, thank you. I'll give that a shot tonight. I've removed most plugs that I can and put new ones on. I boil the old ones and use them in the future, same with shells.

I had to frag out my Cali tort and purple Stylo since algae really put a hurt on them. Now I've got like 10 frags of each I have no clue what to do with.

Carlos Oliveira · Apr 19, 2020

Beardo said:
I tried both rodi water and diluted peroxide and still transferred dinos. Dipping may kill the active dinos but don't believe it killed any encysted.

Beardo,

I read this topic from 2017 (https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/upgrading-to-new-tank-dip-to-prevent-dino-transfer-when-bringing-over-corals.320036/) where u tried a lot of "protocols" trying to transfer corals without transferring dinos together .. You had NO success at all ? all cases you transferred Dinos ? low salinity, fresh water and H2O2 dips ?

Give us a shorty resume about it.

Thank you!

Enchanted Reefs · Apr 19, 2020

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Beardo · Apr 19, 2020

Carlos Oliveira said:
Beardo,

I read this topic from 2017 (https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/upgrading-to-new-tank-dip-to-prevent-dino-transfer-when-bringing-over-corals.320036/) where u tried a lot of "protocols" trying to transfer corals without transferring dinos together .. You had NO success at all ? all cases you transferred Dinos ? low salinity, fresh water and H2O2 dips ?

Give us a shorty resume about it.

Thank you!

I had to look through some of my old posts to refresh my memory, has been a few years now.

I ran some testing when I was struggling with dinos and was considering a full reboot. I set up a qt tank to tranfer corals into and was utilizing a microscope to look for evidence.
First tried s low salinity dip (not straight freshwater but 1.008 -1.009 sg) followed by diluted peroxide dip, I belive 50/50 but don't recall ecactly. I found active amphidinium in the qt tank after the dips but noticed coolia/ostreopsis cysts which I believe were still viable afterwards as well.
I tried straight freshwater as well and it seemed to work better on the amphidinium but it killed the acros I tried it on with a 30 second dip. LPS and zoas handled it better. Still believe there were viable coolia and ostreopsis cysts though.
Thanfully my tank is all good now.

Jeeperz · Apr 19, 2020

Beardo said:
I had to look through some of my old posts to refresh my memory, has been a few years now.

I ran some testing when I was struggling with dinos and was considering a full reboot. I set up a qt tank to tranfer corals into and was utilizing a microscope to look for evidence.
First tried s low salinity dip (not straight freshwater but 1.008 -1.009 sg) followed by diluted peroxide dip, I belive 50/50 but don't recall ecactly. I found active amphidinium in the qt tank after the dips but noticed coolia/ostreopsis cysts which I believe were still viable afterwards as well.
I tried straight freshwater as well and it seemed to work better on the amphidinium but it killed the acros I tried it on with a 30 second dip. LPS and zoas handled it better. Still believe there were viable coolia and ostreopsis cysts though.
Thanfully my tank is all good now.

How did you finally transfer corals and beat Dino's? Just a super short explanation would be helpful in my quest. I believe I just have the ones that form stringers, and they only form on 1 coral, nowhere else do I see them.

Beardo · Apr 19, 2020

Jeeperz said:
How did you finally transfer corals and beat Dino's? Just a super short explanation would be helpful in my quest. I believe I just have the ones that form stringers, and they only form on 1 coral, nowhere else do I see them.

I ended up not transferring and doing a full reboot. Instead, I installed an oversize UV (114 watt on a 270 gallon tank) which quickly took care of Ostreopsis, Coolia and Prorocentrum. Both small and large cell Amphidinium faded over time.