Discontinued soda ash brs

[LOVEROCK]

(Would be 2 cups for Soda Ash with the 1-gallon mixing jug. ) BRS mixing recommended
if i wanted to raise Alk to a certain number for instnace 5.5 to 6.9, how much mls do i know how to dos ? is there a calculator for this

 

[bdare]

(Would be 2 cups for Soda Ash with the 1-gallon mixing jug. ) BRS mixing recommended
if i wanted to raise Alk to a certain number for instnace 5.5 to 6.9, how much mls do i know how to dos ? is there a calculator for this

They still have the "liquid soda ash" as an option on the calculator... Try that.

Be VERY careful using soda ash to raise alkalinity. The localized pH spike lends itself to precipitation. I only recommend soda ash for maintence and not adjustments.

 

[WVNed]

https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/reef-calculator/

 

[LOVEROCK]

They still have the "liquid soda ash" as an option on the calculator... Try that.

Be VERY careful using soda ash to raise alkalinity. The localized pH spike lends itself to precipitation. I only recommend soda ash for maintence and not adjustments.

so i can dos by hand really slow avoiding above 8.3 PH?

 

[bdare]

so i can dos by hand really slow avoiding above 8.3 PH?

I never had luck dosing by hand to make adjustments. I always got precipitation. I would highly recommend mixing up some baking soda in a just and dosing that to increase.

 

[LOVEROCK]

They still have the "liquid soda ash" as an option on the calculator... Try that.

Be VERY careful using soda ash to raise alkalinity. The localized pH spike lends itself to precipitation. I only recommend soda ash for maintence and not adjustments.

the dangers when it precipitates , to fish and corals, possibly burns ?

 

[bdare]

the dangers when it precipitates , to fish and corals, possibly burns ?

The danger of precipitate is to your pumps, plumbing and heaters where the precipitate forms. Also, since the calcium carbonate is precipitating then its not staying in your water, thus providing no benefit to your animals, pH buffer and you'll end up redosing.

 

[redfishbluefish]

so i can dos by hand really slow avoiding above 8.3 PH?

First off never use pH as a indication of the correct amount of alk.

As suggested, make up a solution of either sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) or sodium carbonate (soda ash). If you have baking soda, you can simply turn it into sodium carbonate by baking it on a cookie sheet at 350F for an hour. Note that baking soda is not overly soluble while with sodium carbonate, you'll get approximately twice the amount to dissolve.

Recommended solutions (and this comes from Randy Holmes Farley article found HERE):

Baking Soda (sodium bicarbonate): Mix 1 1/8 cups of baking soda and add enough water to make 1 gallon total.

Soda Ash (sodium carbonate): Mix 2 cups soda ash and add enough water to make 1 gallon total. (If you're going to bake baking soda, simply bake 2 1/4 cups baking soda and that will "reduce" to the two cups you'll need.)

These two solutions are the ones you find in most alk calculators.

 

[WVNed]

I would follow the direction on the BRS calculator website.
on the calculator select
alkalinity
Liquid soda ash
jug (discontinued)

put in your system size.

Instructions

With any clean 1 gallon container add 2/3 gallon of RO/DI or distilled water and then add 2 cups of BRS Soda Ash. Shake the container well, then top the gallon container off with RO/DI or distilled water and allow it to dissolve fully.
With the solution made and fully dissolved, measure out the amount of solution provided by the calculator and add it slowly to a high flow area of your tank or sump, avoid directly blasting corals with the concentrated solution. Soda Ash will increase pH. Although this is temporary it is important to monitor pH during your initial dose and avoid raising the PH more than 0.20 per dose. Do not increase alkalinity levels more than 0.5meq/lt or 1.4 dKH per day. If necessary spread the suggested dose out and test between doses.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I would not use pH 8.3 as an upper end of acceptability. pH 8.5 is ok

 

[HawaiianReef]

I would follow the direction on the BRS calculator website.
on the calculator select
alkalinity
Liquid soda ash
jug (discontinued)

put in your system size.

Instructions

With any clean 1 gallon container add 2/3 gallon of RO/DI or distilled water and then add 2 cups of BRS Soda Ash. Shake the container well, then top the gallon container off with RO/DI or distilled water and allow it to dissolve fully.
With the solution made and fully dissolved, measure out the amount of solution provided by the calculator and add it slowly to a high flow area of your tank or sump, avoid directly blasting corals with the concentrated solution. Soda Ash will increase pH. Although this is temporary it is important to monitor pH during your initial dose and avoid raising the PH more than 0.20 per dose. Do not increase alkalinity levels more than 0.5meq/lt or 1.4 dKH per day. If necessary spread the suggested dose out and test between doses.

I notice your suggesting to make the liquid soda ash from the discontinued brs powder, then follow the calculator from there.
Is there a reason why you wouldn't select the dry soda ash on the calculator and just dose accordingly?

 

[WVNed]

Those are the directions from BRS for the product in the OP even though it has been discontinued.

 

[HawaiianReef]

I used the calculator last night and selected the dry soda ash. It directed me to add 1 tsp to get the dkh up for me.
I like the idea of making the liquid. Dosing more of a less potent additive seems to be a better/safer route.
I'll try that method next.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I used the calculator last night and selected the dry soda ash. It directed me to add 1 tsp to get the dkh up for me.
I like the idea of making the liquid. Dosing more of a less potent additive seems to be a better/safer route.
I'll try that method next.

No calculator should be (and probably isn't) advising you to ADD an alk supplement dry.

It's just telling you how much you need. Alk additives should always be dissolve in fresh water first. How much water you dissolve it into isn't very important, as long as it dissolves.

 

[hotdrop]

in fresh water first. How much water you dissolve it into isn't very important, as long as it dissolves.

Is there a ballpark about how much to add. Ive been trying to do 1 mil per .1DKH in a 30 gal. That would mix up a bit thicker then the recommended amount so 215 g per Liter.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Is there a ballpark about how much to add. Ive been trying to do 1 mil per .1DKH in a 30 gal. That would mix up a bit thicker then the recommended amount so 215 g per Liter.

there’s no rule. My diy was made to a concentration that can be easily dissolved, but using more water is fine. How concentrated it can be depends on what ingredients you use exactly.

 

[HawaiianReef]

No calculator should be (and probably isn't) advising you to ADD an alk supplement dry.

It's just telling you how much you need. Alk additives should always be dissolve in fresh water first. How much water you dissolve it into isn't very important, as long as it dissolves.

I did dissolve the powder into some ro/di top off water. I should have have mentioned that part.
I guess I would prefer a larger, less potent additive to dose to have a less chance of error.