Disease Confirmation Help

[spartanman22]

I noticed a couple of fish scratching against the sandbed this week, particularly my lawnmower blenny and my leopard wrasse. Today I noticed so visible signs on disease on my clownfish. The scratching led me to believe it's ich, but what I'm seeing on the clowns doesn't quite look like ich to me. But I am by no means and expert on this so hopefully someone can help. I am not seeing the typically white spots, what I am seeing on the clowns appears to be more blotchy and mucous-esque.

Now My Royal Gramma did have a couple small white spots on him today. So I am fairly confident that I am dealing with Ich. I just want to make sure there's nothing else I should be addressing as well.

So, if you guys could chime in I would greatly appreciate it! I have had these clowns for 8 years through 5 tank moves and they have been breeding for years now. So, saving these guys is a must! I've attached a couple photos. They're not great but hopefully good enough to help.

 

[spartanman22]

I've got a 20 long that I will be setting up as the hospital tank for my 7 fish. My fish list consists of two clowns, a leopard wrasse, royal gramma, sand perch, lawnmower blenny, and file fish. What is the better course of action? TTM method in batches, and as they finish TTM into the hospital tank. Or everyone into the hospital tank and treating with medication? I think I'd prefer the TTM approach, but that does mean half the fish will have to wait 14 more days to get through treatment. I don't know that I can run all 7 fish through TTM at one time. I'm nervous about ammonia levels with that.

 

[spartanman22]

Here’s a better representation of what their skin looks like.

 

[LAReefer4Life]

Looks like brooklynella on the clowns unfortunately. TTM won’t work in this case.

Did you add something new recently? Are the fish still eating? What medications do you have on hand?

check out this thread.

Brooklynella

Brooklynella hostilis What You Need To Know: * This is most often seen in clownfish, but it can afflict any fish. The fish’s skin will appear to be peeling or sloughing off, oftentimes causing excessive white mucous to form around the affected area(s). * Treatment of choice is a 45 minute...

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[LAReefer4Life]

I suggest dosing the API General Cure in QT to address the brooklynella problem as this parasite kills rather quickly and then slowly ramp up copper levels over 4-5 days to address the Ich parasite. Make sure you get a solid copper test too. Hold at therapeutic levels for 35 days since you only have one QT setup. You then need to run your DT fallow for 12 weeks to ensure all parasites die off.

I also would conduct a FWD prior to placing in QT to help provide temporary relief.

 

[spartanman22]

I unfortunately have no medication on hand. I’ll have to reach out to my LFS and see if they have any. Otherwise I know amazon has general cure and copper products in stock. Same as BRS. I mentioned that I saw other fish scratching. Would that be a symptom of brook or do they possibly have ich as well?
I added a multibar recently. He never ate and passed away after a couple of weeks. I don’t QT (I know I Know). I’ve got a spare 20 long and some 5 gallon tanks so I’ll setup the 20 long today. Order some meds and do some freshwater dips.

 

[spartanman22]

Very nice fish. Funny enough, I saw your post on Chicago Reefs just a bit go I wonder if these fish are collected in somewhat deeper parts of the ocean like the Peppermint Angel. When they collect Peppermints they have to use a needle to decompress the swim bladder as they ascend towards the surface (here's a video of it being done a goldfish) because of the pressure change. So, I guess one possibility is that could be just be something related to collection.

Also, how long did you acclimate him for? Transshiped fish generally should be drip acclimated for around 1 hour to reduce stress. Overall, I think that it should pass over, but I would still watch and make sure everything is going in a positive direction. Not to personify it, but he's been through a long few days and may just need some TLC.

Best of luck with the multibar! I hope he gets better!

I suggest dosing the API General Cure in QT to address the brooklynella problem as this parasite kills rather quickly and then slowly ramp up copper levels over 4-5 days to address the Ich parasite. Make sure you get a solid copper test too. Hold at therapeutic levels for 35 days since you only have one QT setup. You then need to run your DT fallow for 12 weeks to ensure all parasites die off.

I also would conduct a FWD prior to placing in QT to help provide temporary relief.

I thought brook was a 6 week fallow period? Or is the 12 week suggestion just in case there’s other parasites as well, such as ich?

 

[LAReefer4Life]

I thought brook was a 6 week fallow period? Or is the 12 week suggestion just in case there’s other parasites as well, such as ich?

6 weeks cover brook. However, it sounds like you could be dealing with mutilple issues and the 12 week period covers all parasites, specifically ich has a 76 fallow period.

Also read my QT setup, you can purchase tank dividers for your 20 gallon QT to mitigate aggression during the fallow period so you don't need a bunch of tanks running.

Quarantine Setup Made Easy

Introduction: This article covers the equipment that I utilize in my current quarantine tank. I address commonly asked questions for newly cycled and existing QT setups. In addition, I touch upon the trusted medications that I keep on hand...

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[spartanman22]

Awesome thanks I appreciate the help. So my plan is to setup the 20 long does general cure. After treating for brook with general cure should I run carbon and perform water changes prior to treating with copper?