DIY Amino Acid Formula

[BTimms]

5g bcaa (unflavoured, no additives)
125 ml vinegar
375 ml ro water

 

[chaostactics]

Scientific evidence for this?

 

[P-Dub]

Interesting. How long have you been using and do you have any before and after photos? Have you documented any anecdotal evidence this is effective? Or, have sources to indicate its efficacy?

 

[BTimms]

It’s a solid estimate of levels used in many amino coral foods.
There are many papers describing coral amino uptake.
This formula seems to work well in my Aquarium.
Give it a try!

Scientific evidence for this?

Interesting. How long have you been using and do you have any before and after photos? Have you documented any anecdotal evidence this is effective? Or, have sources to indicate its efficacy?

 

[P-Dub]

It’s a solid estimate of levels used in many amino coral foods.
There are many papers describing coral amino uptake.
This formula seems to work well in my Aquarium.
Give it a try!

Levels are not being scrutinized. The amino's used are. Can you cite some papers with links? Preferably listing the amino's used in BCAA that correlate to those used by corals. Please.

 

[BTimms]

Levels are not being scrutinized. The amino's used are. Can you cite some papers with links? Preferably listing the amino's used in BCAA that correlate to those used by corals. Please.

I’m not a scientist. But I’ve found this formula to work well. I simply posted this in order to spread some ideas, not to be attacked. Although I would appreciate your input on what amino acids to use. Thanks.

Some recent reading on the subject can Be found here;

Uptake of dissolved free amino acids by the scleractinian coral Stylophora pistillata

SUMMARY. This study was designed to assess the importance of dissolved free amino acids (DFAA) as a nitrogen source for the scleractinian coral Stylophora pistillata. For this purpose, experiments were performed using 15N-enriched DFAAs, and %15N enrichment was measured both in animal tissue and...

journals.biologists.com

A genomic view of the reef-building coral Porites lutea and its microbial symbionts - Nature Microbiology

The recovery of metagenome-assembled genomes from the coral Porites lutea, its dinoflagellate symbiont, and its bacterial and archaeal populations, enabled comparative genomic identification of functions important for host–microbe interactions and nutritional associations.

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Frontiers | Impact of Ocean Warming and Acidification on Symbiosis Establishment and Gene Expression Profiles in Recruits of Reef Coral Acropora intermedia

The onset of symbiosis and the early development of most broadcast spawning corals play pivotal roles in recruitment success, yet these critical early stages...

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Coralline algal calcification: A morphological and process-based understanding

Research purpose and findings Coralline algae are key biological substrates of many carbonate systems globally. Their capacity to build enduring crusts that underpin the formation of tropical reefs, rhodolith beds and other benthic substrate is dependent on the formation of a calcified thallus...

journals.plos.org

 

[BTimms]

Scientific evidence for this?

Uptake of dissolved free amino acids by the scleractinian coral Stylophora pistillata

SUMMARY. This study was designed to assess the importance of dissolved free amino acids (DFAA) as a nitrogen source for the scleractinian coral Stylophora pistillata. For this purpose, experiments were performed using 15N-enriched DFAAs, and %15N enrichment was measured both in animal tissue and...

journals.biologists.com

 

[chaostactics]

It’s a solid estimate of levels used in many amino coral foods.
There are many papers describing coral amino uptake.
This formula seems to work well in my Aquarium.
Give it a try!

I hope you didn't feel like I was attacking you. I absolutely LOVE DIY and it's new territory for me in terms of creating any sort of supplements beyond element containing compounds or custom food blending.

I'll also admit that I used to think aminos were snake oil but I think there's enough argument for legitimate benefit. I read though the "

Uptake of dissolved free amino acids by the scleractinian coral Stylophora pistillata "​

article but didn't see a formula in their methodology section. Also did you find specific evidence on storage and longevity of mixture in storage?

Which journal article did you source the formula from.

I think a DIY mix would be awesome, especially based on the difference in cost.

 

[stephj03]

Levels are not being scrutinized. The amino's used are. Can you cite some papers with links? Preferably listing the amino's used in BCAA that correlate to those used by corals. Please.

Or you could do your own homework.....

Tough crowd considering OP is freely sharing what works for them.

@OP, thanks for the info, def gonna take a look.

 

[G Santana]

How much do you dose on what size tank?
Type of tank, is SPS, LPS...
How long does the mix stay good for
Thanks for the info!!!

 

[BTimms]

Scientific evidence for this?

Or you could do your own homework.....

Tough crowd considering OP is freely sharing what works for them.

@OP, thanks for the info, def gonna take a look.

Every time I post something I immediately dive back into the trench and duck for cover. This place can be a hostile environment for people whom wish to exchange ideas and information.

Best Of Luck!

 

[BTimms]

I hope you didn't feel like I was attacking you. I absolutely LOVE DIY and it's new territory for me in terms of creating any sort of supplements beyond element containing compounds or custom food blending.

I'll also admit that I used to think aminos were snake oil but I think there's enough argument for legitimate benefit. I read though the "

Uptake of dissolved free amino acids by the scleractinian coral Stylophora pistillata "​

article but didn't see a formula in their methodology section. Also did you find specific evidence on storage and longevity of mixture in storage?

Which journal article did you source the formula from.

I think a DIY mix would be awesome, especially based on the difference in cost.

I took this formula from an approximation of ingredients found on a label of Acropower. I do not have the label link.

The vinegar acts as a preservative and a possible source of carbon.

Let me know how it works for you.

Regards,

 

[G Santana]

Every time I post something I immediately dive back into the trench and duck for cover. This place can be a hostile environment for people whom wish to exchange ideas and information.

Best Of Luck!

I am interested in your dosing schedule and how long the formula stays viable.
No shade on your information!!!

 

[G Santana]

Every time I post something I immediately dive back into the trench and duck for cover. This place can be a hostile environment for people whom wish to exchange ideas and information.

Best Of Luck!

I'm interested in what you have experienced, just looking for

 

[BTimms]

I am interested in your dosing schedule and how long the formula stays viable.
No shade on your information!!!

I have only been mixing 500 ml at a time. I believe the vinegar works as a preservative. That said, I do not have any information or data on its current Shelf life. I’d be interested to see what the shelf life of acropower or other commercial mixes are.

I dose approximately 5ml per week. In all honesty I have not been dosing it consistently daily. I have noticed “healthier” looking corals, perhaps some increase in colour, although I do not have any evidence of this. I should start taking pictures. Keep in mind I have only been dosing this for all of 3 weeks. Perhaps not enough time for any noticeable changes.

 

[BTimms]

How much do you dose on what size tank?
Type of tank, is SPS, LPS...
How long does the mix stay good for
Thanks for the info!!!

I have a 40 gallon. Mixed sps,lps,a couple of softies.
I dose around 1ml per day. Randomly.

 

[G Santana]

I have a 40 gallon. Mixed sps,lps,a couple of softies.
I dose around 1ml per day. Randomly.

I have every intention on trying this.
Thanks for the information!!!

 

[BTimms]

I have every intention on trying this.
Thanks for the information!!!

I hope it works well for you! Let us know how it goes!

 

[Reefology1]

Any updates?

5g bcaa (unflavoured, no additives)
125 ml vinegar
375 ml ro water

I'm having trouble getting this to dissolve?

 

[J1a]

I have tried to include amino acid extracted from silkworm pupae, in addition to oyster peptides, into my homebrew coral food mix.

I would say both the feeding response and coral health is very good.

(PDF) Proximate, amino acid and mineral composition of pupae of the silkworm Antheraea pernyi in China

PDF | The chemical composition and the nutritional quality of protein of pupae of the silkworm Antheraea pernyi were investigated. Investigations showed... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

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