DIY frag plugs???

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I have been using a ton of frag disks and looking for a cheaper option now.

Anyone make their own frag disks (not using rubble). If so how do you make them and what do you use?

If you use some sort of molds or whatever pictures would be helpful.

thanks ......
 
i currently use ones that are ceramic (made by whatever company cant remember and like them) so using ceramic would be nice. what exactly is ceramic slip? and does it not have to be fired? or whatever?
 
i had read about people making them from cement but i am a little leary about trying it, and then not to mention the however long they have to sit in water, constantly changing it out. seems like a HUGE pain...
how much is the slip and what kind of process before you can use them???
 
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I just use clam shells from after I cook for most zoanthid frags. They grow naturally, fit into the live rock perfectly and are VERY easy to just cut off peices to propagate
 
Howdy,
small size Dixie cups.

Joshua

A buddy made a ton of aragocrete frag plugs using that method, they worked pretty well actually (I've used them). He just made them WAY too thick. Some were nearly 2" thick.

I'm looking for better ways to make plugs as well. Might be more economical then buying them.
 
Yes,
You use ceramic slip, slip is clay mixed wt water available from craft/pottery stores. It does have to be fired. I like ceramic bc it is cheap & easy to use. My plugs work out to about 1.5c a piece including the cost of firing them. I pour them btwn 1/8" to 1/4". Works like a champ, I normally make about 300 - 500 at a time.

Good luck,
Joshua
 
i know people say you shouldnt...but i use tile from lowes...the unpolished marble..undyed..untreated ones...light to white in color....a box was 4 bucks for 10 tiles...i brake each tile into 4-6pieces...dep how bigi i need then...havent noticed an increase in my levels and the corals are growing on them and not changing/losing color

anybody else do this
 
I would reccomend buying them from a sponsor on Reef 2 Reef. I know The Alternative Reef is a sponsor here who has multiple vendors on this site that sells thier products.

Also they do have wholesale pricing for commercial vendors. You could maybe look into it before you buy a "cheaper " alternative. A lot of our vendors sell and use our products not only making them money but essentially costing them very little for the products they do use.

More goes into the price of a product than just the cost to make it. Time, electricity, packaging, shipping, materials, website sponsorship fees, labor, middleman costs. I could go on.

Do it yourself is always gonna be cheaper than buying a manufactured product. But when you consider all the other costs and your time it isn't worth it for most people. Heck we make almost nothing on the Frag Plugs and less on the Disks we make. It is our break even product. They are also our biggest sellers. The money we do take in gets put to good use on product developement and mold replacement. We redo our molds about every year and they cost a lot to get made. I have been working in this hobby for about eight years now and have yet to take a paycheck. And I do not see one on the horizon.

I guess I can put it this way. Like I always say as long as you are aquaculturing corals you are good in my book. But don't limit your options to the cheapest you can find. there may be a better way. If you went to buy a $50,000 high performance sports car you would expect good tires on it. Not retreads. If I am gonna buy a high priced coral frag I want it on a quality mount. Not a piece of tile from a hardware store or a concrete plug that was cured in someones toilet. But that's just me. You and the consumer may not care what the coral is on. I know just as many that like plugs hate plugs.
 
We use tile from lowes but we use the ones that have 144 small 1x1 inch little pieces. These work great for frag zoas and palys.
 
In our store we have a plastic tank covered in branching gorgonian... it's our "frag tank" .... on another note, we found you could buy plastic army men and cut them below the torso. This gives you a flat plate for the frags and the nubbins leftover will hold the plug on the eggcrate

also made of non-toxic plastics so... should be safe?
 
wow, alex thats creative ! :) i never thought of using lil' army men. :)

right now im using tonga branch that my lfs had that had been broken and whatever and had been put on the shelf to sell off as dead rock. i bought it and cut them into disks. $1.99 a pound, not too bad, and so far its making a bunch of disks.
 
i guess if you got some branch and sliced it with a rock saw, it would make very nice and natural frag disks, but the only rock saws I have access to are in my geo lab (I'm almost done with my geology degree) and they are lubricated to high hell with who knows what
 
In our store we have a plastic tank covered in branching gorgonian... it's our "frag tank" .... on another note, we found you could buy plastic army men and cut them below the torso. This gives you a flat plate for the frags and the nubbins leftover will hold the plug on the eggcrate

also made of non-toxic plastics so... should be safe?


poor army men... have you no shame ?!
 
Hey Amanda,
What are you cutting your branch rock with? Inquireing minds want to know :)

Joshua

yeah! also, any dirt on brad and jennifer? how bout tom and katie? :tongue:

anyway, the tonga discs are my frag plug of choice to receive corals on. they blend in great, glue down easy, and if you need to frag, break in half or pieces easy, then just snip the mat, or whatever.
 
so far the tonga branches are working out GREAT ! they make very nice frag disks! i am cutting them with a miter saw with a concrete blade. very each just to put them in there and clamp and saw... then move down just a bit and do over and over again :). it did break a piece of the concrete blade a bit but still working....
 

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