DIY RO/DI Controller

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Thought I'd share a project I did back in 2009.

After spilling more RO/DI water onto my fishroom floor that I care to admit from forgetting to turn off the RO/DI system, I finally decided to build a reliable system to automate the switching. Now I realize that there are various float valves out there to do this, but after trying two with poor results, I decided a more "industrial strength" answer would be better. Plus, I get to DIY and that's what I love about this hobby!

So what this solution gives me is the ability to monitor levels in my R/O Vat, and automatically turn off/on the flow of water into my RO/DI system.

The two core components to this rig are a solenoid valve and an auto top-off (ATO) controller. I went with the polycarbonate solenoid valve with 1/4 inch quick-connects part number 5489T61 from McMaster-Carr. Expensive part, for sure, but the water pressure at my house is crazy high (>80 psi) and I needed something that would stand up to that and be dependable:


And some sort of ATO controller. I just happened to have an old reef fanatic ATO unit laying in the spare bin:


In addition to these, you'll need some sort of moisture-resistant box, an old extension cord, and some terminal quick-connects.

OK, on with the fun. I didn't have a suitable enclosure laying around, so a quick trip to the local rat shack and for $3.99 I picked up this little 5-inch project box:


We're going to mount the solenoid into the box with the electrical connections inside, and the water connections outside. I took the whole thing over to R/O system and figured out how the water lines were running, where I was going to mount the controller, and where the power cords were going to run first. That helped me figure out where I was going to orient the box, and the solenoid within the box. With the dry fit done, I drilled a 1-inch hole in the lid of the project box and mounted the solenoid in there:


Note that you have to take the solenoid apart to mount it. Remove the nut on the top, and pull the poly part straight down from the solenoid and bracket. In this picture I had left the little metal bracket off the solenoid. You must have that on the solenoid or it will not function properly. Also, now's a great time to tell you that the hose connectors on this particular solenoid are labeled 1 and 2. Number 2 is the input side, and 1 is the output side. This is a critical distinction. The solenoid will not function properly with the flow reversed.

Next, we make the electrical connections. Take an old extension cord (I didn't have a spare one laying around since it's Christmas time - those things are like hen's teeth during Christmas - so 97 cents at home depot gets you a six foot cord that works just fine. Chop the receptacle end off of the cord, leaving all the length on the plug piece.

Drill a small hole in the end of your box that will accommodate the cord, and stick it through (leave the plug outside the box, fresh cut wires inside). You need to connect up the cord to the solenoid. Here is where those clamp-style terminal connectors are very handy:


Connect it all up nice and pretty and take a nice in-focus picture of it (ok, maybe not so in focus, lol):


Tighten everything up, close the box, and fasten the lid. Now you got something that is starting to look useful!
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Now to affix the box to the wall next to my R/O unit. I went with this handy-dandy velcro tape. No DIY-er should be without this stuff!



Next, we need to get the float sensor into the R/O vat. I refuse to depend on those suction cups, because they always fall off at the worst times! So a little dab of silicone sealant on each of the cups makes sure we stay nice and tightly attached to the vat. I used a 3/8-inch bit to drill a hole in the vat lid for the float sensor plug to fit through:


Last thing is to mount the controller safely out of splash range and make all the connections. Bring over the extension cord from the solenoid valve, plug in the float sensor, and hook up the A/C cord for the ATO controller:


Here's the controller taking it's rightful spot overseeing non-spillage!!!


Here you can see the float switches mounted high and low in the vat:


As suction cups do not hold up well over time, I fabricated acrylic holders which have worked great. Here's a close up:


We have since installed a mixing station with 100g vats for RO/DI and saltwater and are still using the same controller.


-Mike
 
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Cool project Mike, thanks for sharing!
 
Thought I would post an update of how to get the ATO float switches into the 100g vat.

The acrylic strips that worked very well in the 40g brute wouldn't work with the vat, so we needed something that would stand up inside the vat and not flop around. After some pontification, I decided on using some spare 3/4" PVC parts that I had laying around. The idea is to construct a PVC stand that will easily fit inside the vat, and that the float switches can be mounted to. The idea came together pretty quick and easy.

First we take the Reef Fanatics float switches and those handy plastic mounts they come with, and a couple of 3/4" Tees:
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Next take some fishing line and attach the float switches to the 3/4" Tees:
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We fashioned the base, and then cut the first length of PVC pipe to the height of where we want the low water (turn on) float switch to be:
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Then we cut the second length of PVC to height of the high water (turn off) float switch:
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The wire for the bottom float switch gets run up inside the PVC pipe, so it stays clear of the upper switch. The whole thing goes into the vat, and we run the wires up to the ATO controller:
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All done, and the beauty of the simple design is that float switches can be easily replaced, or their height adjusted as needed.
 
This is one of the best DIY projects I have read in a while. Very well done!
 
this is brilliant,I've been looking for a similar design for my RO/DI vat,I use a float valve and the shut-off system that came with the RO/DI filter and it works great but I tapped into my RO/DI storage vat and connected to a float valve in my sump for my ATO,the float in my storage vat is continually kicking on and off and I'd like for it to go longer before refilling.....

now,am I reading this correctly ? the reef fanatic ATO will turn the pump off once the water has tripped the upper float switch and not turn the pump back on until the water level has dropped below the lower float switch ?
 
Thanks for the compliments fellas.

@Willie - you are correct; that is the way I have it configured - this gives the advantage of only running the RO/DI unit infrequently to refill the vat versus lots of off/on cycles every time the sump needs a little top off.

The Reef Fanatics ATO controller is very configurable (take a look at the owners manual for details). Essentially, the controller has two modes (switch selectable), and the float sensors can be reversed, giving you many options. We have used these units for many years with no failures - highly recommended.
 
thank you for the info and the user manual,that is exactly what I need,I may do something a little different but I will share it here when I have it complete :D
 
@Willie - you are correct; that is the way I have it configured - this gives the advantage of only running the RO/DI unit infrequently to refill the vat versus lots of off/on cycles every time the sump needs a little top off.

The Reef Fanatics ATO controller is very configurable (take a look at the owners manual for details). Essentially, the controller has two modes (switch selectable), and the float sensors can be reversed, giving you many options. We have used these units for many years with no failures - highly recommended.

thank you,that is exactly what I want,my RO/DI filter is constantly kicking on and off the way I have it now,at 65psi of pressure,it makes a lot of noise and I'm tired of hearing that LOL I placed an order for the reef fanatic yesterday,should have mine Friday...

my plan is to use it to refill a 5g top off bucket,have the top off bucket connected to the float valve in my sump and gravity fed,add a pump to my RO/DI holding tank to refill the top off bucket....I use between 3 and 5 gallons of top off water a day,depending on the season...

I have the 5g bucket to use for the sump ATO,all the plumbing done and the pump ready,just waiting on the reef fanatic now :D I'll take pics and post 'em when I get everything in place
 
got my reef fanatic in today :D

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here's what I did with mine,I will redo the mount some time soon,right now,I'm using a magnet probe holder bracket to hold the PVC pieces,I use zip ties to hold the float sensors to the PVC....

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my little pump to refill the 5g bucket is in the blue barrel,that's my RO/DI vat,it holds about 40g

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I like to never figured out the orientation of the sensors,the directions that came with my controller are slightly different than the on-line PDF file...sensor 1 and sensor 2 are backwards with my controllers instructions than what the online PDF stated LOL but I figured it out and it works great.....


once again Mike&Terry,thank you so much for sharing this DIY
 
For some odd reason some of our image shack hosted images were no longer displaying. We've moved all of the images over to Flickr and edited our original post to correct the picture links.

-M&T
 
I have my dual float switches installed in a 23 gallon Rubermaid recycling an for my ATO. They are 12" apart so it works out to 11 gallons before the RO/DI comes on to replenish the storage. One thing I would highly recommend to anyone doing ANY ATO or liquid level controller is use an AC/DC relay and use only low voltage DC power on the solenoid and float switches. It is amazing to see the Arc flash inside a float switch when it is dark outside, DC is much safer around water.
I also like the side mount float switches as they can be drilled and mounted in the side with their built in bulkheads with no brackets needed.
Engineered Plastic Single-Point Level Switches

If you are not into DIY you can purchase the whole thing preassembled here:
Dual Float Solenoid Valve Controller Assy w/ 1/4in Sol Valve
This is the system I use and it is sometimes on sale when you watch their monthly flyer.

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