Do I really need a skimmer?

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Being new to reef keeping I try and get advice where I can, mostly conflicting between local marine stores and old hands at reef keeping. I have a 29g tank and carry out weekly water changes and everything is going well (I also have the worlds loudest skimmer V2 skim 200). My local store recommended it to me (surprise, surprise) but the local expert said I don't need it due to the size of my tank. I hope the local expert is correct and I can sleep again at night.
 
Depends on alot of factors, theres not really one correct answer. If you want to keep coral and encourage growth through feeding(oyster eggs, phyto etc) a skimmer is key to remove extra waste. # of fish also plays a factor. If you only have a couple fish, and arent feeding too much, you can get by fine without one as long as you stay on top of water changes
 
I agree with Shores805. Heck, I didnt have one for a while when I started my 75. Then, I "upgraded" to a Seaclown, then an Eshoppes model and it made one heck of a difference in water quality....even when I had a FOWLR setup.
 
what do you guys think about the potential for it to remove trace minerals/ food for corals? i myself am trying to decide the same thing, ive been told by others it can suck up the trace minerals.
 
I would say that a skimmer tends to be the most basic of reefkeeping requirements. The statements by shores805 are completely on point. What you want to keep and how much really plays a factor. I do not do water changes every week and could not get by with out a skimmer. I don't have much experience with tanks below 60 gallons. The larger the tank the more critical this becomes in my opinion. I have never worried too much about trace elements being eliminiated through the skimmers. I do water changes just not as often as I would have to with out a skimmer.
 
I would say that a skimmer tends to be the most basic of reefkeeping requirements. The statements by shores805 are completely on point. What you want to keep and how much really plays a factor. I do not do water changes every week and could not get by with out a skimmer. I don't have much experience with tanks below 60 gallons. The larger the tank the more critical this becomes in my opinion. I have never worried too much about trace elements being eliminiated through the skimmers. I do water changes just not as often as I would have to with out a skimmer.
+ 1 if you want to keep sps you will need a skimmer also some lps
 
You don't need most anything but water and lights. A skimmer is a tool that will give you a bit more latitude with regard to tank maintenance and water quality. Many people run fantastic SPS tanks with no skimmer. A skimmer basically removes DOC or disolved organic carbon, in other words, wastes. It removes wastes before they get to the bacteria to be converted to less toxic chemicals like nitrate. So a skimmer will (if it is running correctly) reduce the workload on bacteria which should reduce nitrate accumulation.
A skimmer does not remove trace elements except in the small amount of water it removes, but it will not target these elements.
It works because most (but not all) DOC is made of a certain molecule which has two parts, one end is attracted to water and one end is attracted to air. Due to this, these molecules love to be on the surface of a bubble where it can be in both water and air at the same time. The surface film of a bubble is the perfect place to attract DOC. The bubbles burst at the top of the reaction chamber because when they go over the rim of the reaction tube, there is less preassure on the sides and they burst, dumping their contents into the cup.
I myself use a large skimmer and have for decades but there are people who feel that a skimmer actually hinders SPS by removing some things that SPS "likes"
 
I agree with Paul.

to me the really big important thing is to get the tank balanced out with various plant life like the varous algaes. Then do the rest.

So skimmers are optional.

my .02
 
I have three systems all using skimmers a reef octopus 150 on a 75 gallon and Tunze 9002 on a nano and a percision marine redline 200 on a 110 gallon all are reef reef tanks.
I run my skimmers on a kind of weird rotation I leave them off for two days run for one day then off for two again. and I do water changes every week and I still am amazed at what I pull out of the water on a dry skim only on for about 14 hours. I think skimmers are necessary unless you want the tank to be septic and drive your ammonia and nitrates. But like the other guys said it all depends on the load of the tank and how much you feed. Either way if you do decide to get a skimmer make sure it is a reputable one or you are wasting your money bubble size and consistency are they only key factors in my opinion for a successful skimmer.
 
in the tanks that i have run successfully, a powerful skimmer is a must. Water changes are important, but you can only remove so much waste each time. If you are concerned about noise, i recommend an eshopps skimmer. Works like a champ and is pretty quiet at the same time.
 
Nice responses all. I don't think they are necessary but I wouldn't run a reef tank without one....That's just me.
 
Nice responses all. I don't think they are necessary but I wouldn't run a reef tank without one....That's just me.

I agree way to much slime and waste being expelled in a reef tank to rely on water changes alone in my opinion. but some people run great reef tanks with little or no skimming I think that this way is just asking for a crash though.
 
It would be easy enough for an experienced hobbiest to set up and maintain a 29 gallon tank without a skimmer. However, why make it hard on your self? For someone just starting out, the skimmer will be a useful safety net to help keep your system stable. it will give you a little more lattitude with feeding, fish load and water change schedule. If your careful and disciplined you can do it.
 

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