Does a Bayer coral dip kill fish parasite?

[jasonrusso]

If I buy a coral frag and dip it in Bayer, will that rid it of ich and velvet?

 

[EmdeReef]

If I buy a coral frag and dip it in Bayer, will that rid it of ich and velvet?

Possibly, but will more than likely kill the fish.

 

[jasonrusso]

Possibly, but will more than likely kill the fish.

You did see "coral frag" in my post, correct

 

[TvanB1]

Bayer will not kill any encysted parasites. The only way that I know of to completely clear a frag of parasites would be to keep it in a separate tank, with no fish, for 72 days. You can not add any more coral, snails, crabs, etc during this time or you will have to restart the quarantine period.

 

[EmdeReef]

You did see "coral frag" in my post, correct

Oops Sorry missed it (facepalm)

 

[GoldeneyeRet]

Bayer dip will not kill Ich and velvet as noted above.

You must qt the coral in a fishless tank to eliminate these parasites and keep them out of your display. The number of days to qt and the guidelines I follow in doing so differ slightly from the previous response. See the invert qt thread stickied for the specific guidelines I prefer to follow.

Good luck and good for you in attempting to keep your fish healthy and parasite free. I'm sure they appreciate it!

 

[jasonrusso]

I'm familiar with QT and life cycle times.

 

[TvanB1]

Bayer dip will not kill Ich and velvet as noted above.

You must qt the coral in a fishless tank to eliminate these parasites and keep them out of your display. The number of days to qt and the guidelines I follow in doing so differ slightly from the previous response. See the invert qt thread stickied for the specific guidelines I prefer to follow.

Good luck and good for you in attempting to keep your fish healthy and parasite free. I'm sure they appreciate it!

Directly from Humblefish’s sticky in the disease treatment forum.

“Therefore, 76 days worth of isolation in a fishless environment is also the safest time frame to QT all corals/inverts.”

 

[GoldeneyeRet]

Exactly, not 72 days.

I also do not restart the clock when new coral is added to a fishless qt.

These are details, we are in agreement for the most part especially regarding the original question regarding the dip.

Happy reefing!

 

[TvanB1]

Exactly, not 72 days.

I also do not restart the clock when new coral is added to a fishless qt.

These are details, we are in agreement for the most part especially regarding the original question regarding the dip.

Happy reefing!

Oh, typo. Should have been 76**

If you dont restart the clock when adding new coral quarantining is useless.

 

[Idoc]

Oh, typo. Should have been 76**

If you dont restart the clock when adding new coral quarantining is useless.

The corals need to be quarantined for 76 days...but, adding new corals doen't restart the 76 day clock, like in a fish quarantine system. Each coral just needs to be in a fishless quarantine for 76 days.

 

[Humblefish]

If I buy a coral frag and dip it in Bayer, will that rid it of ich and velvet?

Might (big might) kill the free swimming stage, but very unlikely to have any impact on encysted tomonts. Not even copper kills tomonts and you need to ramp chlorine up to 60 mg/L for 24 hrs to eliminate all the tomonts in a tank. That's enough chlorine to make your eyes/nose burn if you were to take a whiff.

As mentioned above, 76 days isolated to a fishless environment is the way to go.

 

[domination2580]

If you start your 76 days, and add more, what's to say the newer additions don't bring something in and don't hatch till mid way, meaning they would love longer than the 76 days which then could infest the original coral with swimmers and get into the dt

 

[GoldeneyeRet]

The encysted tomonts might live 76 days, but the free swimmers do not. With no fish present the free swimmers cannot complete their life cycle. That means a newer coral added cannot reaffect a previously added coral with encysted tomonts.

Thus, the clock does not need to be reset.

 

[Humblefish]

The encysted tomonts might live 76 days, but the free swimmers do not. With no fish present the free swimmers cannot complete their life cycle. That means a newer coral added cannot reaffect a previously added coral with encysted tomonts.

Thus, the clock does not need to be reset.

Just to add, it is always prudent to rinse any new coral/invert with DT water (and into a bucket to be discarded) before placing in your display. Or better yet, give it a coral dip bath and rinse afterwards. Just on the off chance a free swimmer inadvertently landed on the coral/invert as you were taking it out of QT and needs to be "washed away".

^^ The above is probably only a concern if you have added new (<76 days) corals/inverts to your coral QT, with tomonts which might still be actively releasing free swimmers into the water.

 

[GoldeneyeRet]

Agree, I always dip and rinse well between qt and dt, for coral pest as well as free swimming fish parasites.

Thanks humblefish for all the information you have provided over the years. You have made this a much more enjoyable hobby for countless people.

 

[domination2580]

Just to add, it is always prudent to rinse any new coral/invert with DT water (and into a bucket to be discarded) before placing in your display. Or better yet, give it a coral dip bath and rinse afterwards. Just on the off chance a free swimmer inadvertently landed on the coral/invert as you were taking it out of QT and needs to be "washed away".

^^ The above is probably only a concern if you have added new (<76 days) corals/inverts to your coral QT, with tomonts which might still be actively releasing free swimmers into the water.

This is what I was getting at. I think the clock would have to start over once a new coral or invert was introduced to qt

 

[TvanB1]

The encysted tomonts might live 76 days, but the free swimmers do not. With no fish present the free swimmers cannot complete their life cycle. That means a newer coral added cannot reaffect a previously added coral with encysted tomonts.

Thus, the clock does not need to be reset.

Ah, ok.
Didn’t know that. Thanks for correcting me. Always learning something new.