Does my wrasse have awim blatter or something else?

[techhnyne]

He started doing this the other day and continues to do it all day. He really only eats Brian shrimp so figured its high protien swim blatter

 

[techhnyne]

anyone? he does not seam to be bloated or fat ot anything

 

[Fishfinder]

I'm not sure what you're asking but it does not look like a swim badder problem. It looks like he is picking things off the surface of the water

 

[techhnyne]

I'm not sure what you're asking but it does not look like a swim badder problem. It looks like he is picking things off the surface of the water

No he def is not. He is way worse swimming/floating upside down

 

[Fishfinder]

You have a video of that?

 

[GHsaltie]

The behavior in that video looks more indicative to a spinal injury than swim bladder. It can happen easily for wrasses if they get spooked and dart into a rock/wall/lid. Unfortunately there isn’t anything that can help him, he will either get bettor or not.
@evolved @Humblefish

 

[Maritimer]

+1

A swim bladder issue would have the fish either struggling to stay up in the water column (though it looks as though he is, I don't think that's the case) or struggling to stay off the surface. Spinal injuries tend to present with that classic "tail drop" that your little fellow is showing. GHsaltie's right - there really isn't much we can do for spinal injuries other than to keep them quiet, comfortable and well fed.

Adult brine shrimp are a tempting treat for fish - as chocolate is for humans - but neither are really up to being a steady diet. Have a go at getting some other forms of nutrition into this guy, if you can.

~Bruce

 

[techhnyne]

Have him moved to a QT tank and here is an update video, he only stays vertical like that or upsidedown

 

[Maritimer]

Give him some places to hide out - PVC fittings are just fine, and minimal interference otherwise... That and prayers are the best I can offer, I'm afraid . . .

~Bruce

 

[Crashjack]

He looks like he is spitting something out of his mouth and sucking it back in... maybe an intestinal parasite problem??? If it is a spinal injury, you can't do anything anyway. If he is still feeding, maybe feed medicated food for intestinal parasites.

 

[techhnyne]

Forget the spitting out part. Thats just wrasse smile from me handeling him and moving from the display to the qt. It was attatchedbto his face and fell off right after the video

 

[techhnyne]

ok back to this topic

anyone have an image of a wrasses swim bladder location? I want to try and relieve my wrasse swim bladder while hes still alive as last measure

 

[Fishfinder]

It will be directly behind the pectoral fin, in a fish that small about 1/2-1" behind the pectoral fin...

... but from your video it does not look like a swim badder problem. Swim bladder issues present differently

 

[4FordFamily]

The behavior in that video looks more indicative to a spinal injury than swim bladder. It can happen easily for wrasses if they get spooked and dart into a rock/wall/lid. Unfortunately there isn’t anything that can help him, he will either get bettor or not.
@evolved @Humblefish

Agree entirely. That’s a spinal injury. Does your tank have a hard top on it? Wrasse dart and run in to things but a common reason for this is a wrasse that leaps and hits it’s head on a hard lid.

 

[4FordFamily]

ok back to this topic

anyone have an image of a wrasses swim bladder location? I want to try and relieve my wrasse swim bladder while hes still alive as last measure

This is not a swim bladder issue. When a fish swims as if it has a fishing weight tied to the tail (aimed downward like in the video) it’s indicative of a spinal injury.

Unfortunately there’s little you can do. 50/50 chance it pulls through, perhaps less. Sorry!

 

[Maritimer]

If it was a swim-bladder issue, the only reason to lance it and relieve pressure would be if the fish was positively buoyant - that is, if it was floating toward the surface, even though trying to swim downward. (It's not uncommon in, for example, Genicanthus angelfish which are collected deep, and sometimes have their decompression rushed a bit.)

In your case, that's just not going to help, and will only succeed in adding to the fish's stress.

~Bruce

 

[techhnyne]

i do have a hard top but this guys not known as a jumper he always hangs at bottom.
I thought it was a spine injury but was hoping it was something else because he has better chance of survival with a swim bladder.

I have him in a QT right now so hope that helps. though he is not eating should i force feed him?

 

[Maritimer]

Force-feeding would be counterproductive.

When humans have a possible spinal injury, they get strapped to a board during transport, in order to minimize movement. If you try to force-feed the fish, he's going to struggle, possibly further damaging the spine. Fish can go quite a long time without food - I had a parrotfish go for a month or so . . . although it didn't survive that hunger strike.

~Bruce

 

[techhnyne]

Force-feeding would be counterproductive.

When humans have a possible spinal injury, they get strapped to a board during transport, in order to minimize movement. If you try to force-feed the fish, he's going to struggle, possibly further damaging the spine. Fish can go quite a long time without food - I had a parrotfish go for a month or so . . . although it didn't survive that hunger strike.

~Bruce

so should i strap him to a Popsicle stick ? lmaoo

 

[Maritimer]

LOL, no .... but quiet and rest would probably be a good idea.

~Bruce