Does this look like Ich?

[Kalinina]

Hello everyone!

I am not sure if my fish has ich, the life cycle doesn’t seem to coincide to what I’m seeing.

First sign of spots was Tuesday evening after work. Tuesday AM to noon, no spots. Both of us are home around 6pm, that is when we noticed spots.
Woke up Wednesday AM, spots are gone completely. Wednesday evening, spots are back. (Pic is of Wednesday evening)
Thursday AM, spots are gone. (Next pic is of this morning, Thursday AM).

Does she have ich? Or something else? I am debating on pulling everyone out and going fallow, but not positive it is Ich at this point.

Thank you!

 

[Qasimja]

the first pic does look like ich can you get pictures under white lighting

 

[Kalinina]

Hello! I got pics under the white light. I’m using an iPhone, so they are not the best. Plus she was being camera shy!

 

[Kalinina]

She is eating, acting normal.

Is the cycle that quick? Could they attach and be visible for 12 or less hours then disappear two days in a row?

 

[Kalinina]

Reading @Humblefish Tank Terror article on Velvet; it states it could have a 12 hour cycle on the fish before falling off. Should I treat for velvet?

• “The lifecycle of velvet varies according to strain. The trophonts, which feed and do all the damage, can remain on a fish for as little as 12 hours or as long as 4 days. Common sense dictates you are more likely to save a fish with velvet if it’s a “12 hour variant” than one which feeds on the fish for 4 consecutive days, since the medication will not kill the trophonts still on the fish.”

 

[Qasimja]

if it was velvet your fish would be dead by now my display tank got velvet and most of them were dead within 2 days the remaining 2 died in QT a day later

 

[Kalinina]

I’m sorry for your loss. That is heartbreaking and devastating.

Thank you for your help! I will continue to observe and go from there.

 

[Wolf89]

Ich, yes. Fallow? Imo that is an overreaction. 95% of the time ich doesn't kill and if you go fallow, not only would it be stressful on the fish, it would definitely be reintroduced unless you QT EVERYTHING wet. Fish, coral, inverts, even live rock. Fish with copper and everything else fallow for 76 days. Just feed your fish good and you'll have no problems

 

[Kalinina]

I’ve been reading/researching and debating if I should go the eradicate or manage route. I just got home, the purple is showing no signs, but I can see 3 spots on one of the clowns, and now there is something white on the little regal’ head.

I’ll post pics below.

Does that look like he caused an injury from rubbing his head on the rocks? Or some other parasite/disease? He did not have that at 11:30 this morning when I left for work. He’s honestly not looking too good.

Any ideas?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Looks like Ich/crypto
Cryptocaryon usually appears at the onset as salt-sized white spots visible on the body and fins of a host fish, although it can also infest the gills. Because Crypto is more easily recognized in its beginning stage, it is much easier to treat and cure before it gets out of control. besides the appearance of the white spots, the fish will scratch against objects in an attempt to dislodge the parasites, and rapid respiration develops and inflames tissue clog the gills. The Fish then refuses to eat, and patches or blotches destroy the pigment cells, and secondary bacterial infections occurs.
Copper is very effective on Oodinium, and it works well to eliminate Crypto in their free-swimming stage, but is not effective on the Crypto that burrow deeply into the tissues of fish, so the aquarium needs to be treated repeatedly until all of the crypto spores mature.
Because of the prolonged life cycle of Crypto, affected aquariums should be treated for a minimum of 6-8 weeks. If the fish are removed from the saltwater aquarium into a quarantine tank, any Crypto parasites remaining in the tank without fish will die after a period of time, up to 4 weeks, depending on temperature and salinity.

 

[Kalinina]

Thanks!! We went ahead and caught everyone and have them all in the quarantine tank with the first dose of copper power. I am hoping everyone settles down and eats. I’m planning on 14 days of copper, then transferring to a sterile tank for the rest of the fallow period.

 

[Wolf89]

Thanks!! We went ahead and caught everyone and have them all in the quarantine tank with the first dose of copper power. I am hoping everyone settles down and eats. I’m planning on 14 days of copper, then transferring to a sterile tank for the rest of the fallow period.

Copper isnt effective unless its 30 days continously

 

[Kalinina]

Thanks! I am going with @HotRocks quarantine method of 14 days in 2.0 copper, then transfer fish only to a sterile tank and monitor (in my case for weeks until fallow period is over). In his “how I quarantine” thread, he said he has had success with that method. I don’t want to risk deaths at the 20-30 day mark in copper.

I do appreciate your input! We went back and forth last night between your post and Vetteguy’s. We would have left them and tried to manage it in the DT if it weren’t for the regal looking bad.

They have settled down this morning. Eating and not as frantic as last night.

 

[Wolf89]

Ok well, whatever you do, I hope it works out!

 

[Kalinina]

Thank you!