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As an avid scuba diver, and someone who has pined for a reef tank for a long time, why is it that so many setups seem to look so.... fake? Day-glo corals and purple hues just make everything seem unrealistic. I'm sure that there are plenty of reefers who have tanks dedicated to keeping reef critters typical of particular underwater ecosystems, i.e. the Caribbean, but it seems all the tanks I come across on the web look like they came out of a cheesy, black light illuminated theme park ride and not the ocean. How do I create a reef environment that looks like a... reef environment?

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It’s ‘cause we like all the pretty colors...
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You can make it how you want to, if you want it to look brown and green, buy brown and green corals. I think lots of us like the unusual, and fluorescent corals because we have limited space to work with and those are the ones that catch our eyes the most.

As for the purple, coralline algae is probably going to grow whether you want it to or not. FWIW Palancar gardens in Cozumel is pretty much a purple encrusted wonderland when I was diving there 20+ years ago. So it does exist outside of our tanks. ;)
 
Its a matter of preference as each owners tank is his or her landscape
 
As an avid scuba diver, and someone who has pined for a reef tank for a long time, why is it that so many setups seem to look so.... fake? Day-glo corals and purple hues just make everything seem unrealistic. I'm sure that there are plenty of reefers who have tanks dedicated to keeping reef critters typical of particular underwater ecosystems, i.e. the Caribbean, but it seems all the tanks I come across on the web look like they came out of a cheesy, black light illuminated theme park ride and not the ocean. How do I create a reef environment that looks like a... reef environment?

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I agree. When I scuba dive, I never see those colors, not even close. What I notice though is that underwater pictures look better than what I see with my own eyes. Colors are decent snorkeling but 20ft? 40? 60ft? forget it. That said... I think corals look much better (and fish) with our unnatural lights...
 
Well, what I think you are referring to is the tanks that run heavy blues in their lighting, making them look like they are filled with windex.
I’m not at all a fan of that look but it does bring out certain colors and makes the corals “poop”.

For the most natural look I would recommend you go with metal halide fixtures with 10k bulbs. That will give you that daylight spectrum that you will see on a shallow reef.
 
So I would say do your research and pick your favorite dive sites to emulate at home... it won’t be difficult or expensive unless you’re doing a Florida reef because it’s hard if at all possible to get the stag and elkhorn corals that grow there but I’ve seen plenty of natural looking reef tanks where people keep native stuff... in the hobby we just love color and yeah it doesn’t look natural because you would never see many of the species all together in one place but in my opinion it’s bringing your ideal reef to your home
 
As an avid scuba diver, and someone who has pined for a reef tank for a long time, why is it that so many setups seem to look so.... fake? Day-glo corals and purple hues just make everything seem unrealistic. I'm sure that there are plenty of reefers who have tanks dedicated to keeping reef critters typical of particular underwater ecosystems, i.e. the Caribbean, but it seems all the tanks I come across on the web look like they came out of a cheesy, black light illuminated theme park ride and not the ocean. How do I create a reef environment that looks like a... reef environment?

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You sure do know how to start a fire for your first post. Be that as it may I am an active diver and as you point out there are no home wreckers at 90 feet let alone 10. Corals look different as they should due to how light, Mother Nature, and our eyes work. There is a lot more obviously to it than my simple explanation but if you do any under water photography or take a go-pro you know this. It is why we use orange or red filters for example.

Couple years ago I was diving a small wreck off one of the Hawaiian islands. I forget which probably Maui. Anyway it was a F4U Corsair that was about 114 feet down in the middle of nowhere. Nice open water dive. Anyway we get to the bottom and there is a large brain type coral in the fuselage growing like nothing I've seen before. Along the rest of the plain in various places are other corals be it stony and soft. Nothing which we would normally see in our displays but the open water and 100+ feet of visibility made coral growth a natural source there. And the fish only in that area was amazing. Then nothing... Next dive was shallow and a lot of stony corals. Looked the same all cream, light pink or brown. Few years later I was diving in Cozumel and again it was similar. Greens, tan, etc. No rainbow or skittles. Just the shades as we would expect to see. You could see the color and contrast on fish, eels, and what not. Corals though, sea fans, no. Natural. No boutique shop morphs.

Lighting. Tank size. Water volume. Additives. Coral source. Lighting duration. All this changes things to the hobbyist eyes. Who are we to judge?

Edit: last comment on flame suit on. Not sure I would have ended with that. Just a friendly discussion unless you are really trolling.
 
Just don't use the blue lights that are popular. I'm with you in that i want it to look more natural but do see the beauty in the crazy actinic colors, so I've set my led lights to have an hour of actinic at start and end of daily light cycle with natural light for most of the day. This way i can enjoy the tank looking natural for most of the day but also experience the bright colors for a short period of time.
 
Edit: last comment on flame suit on. Not sure I would have ended with that. Just a friendly discussion unless you are really trolling.

I don't want anyone to think I am knocking their particular vision. I was just hoping for you guys to point me in the direction I myself would be looking to go when I set up my reef (hopefully next month when I move into my new house).
 
As an avid scuba diver, and someone who has pined for a reef tank for a long time, why is it that so many setups seem to look so.... fake? Day-glo corals and purple hues just make everything seem unrealistic. I'm sure that there are plenty of reefers who have tanks dedicated to keeping reef critters typical of particular underwater ecosystems, i.e. the Caribbean, but it seems all the tanks I come across on the web look like they came out of a cheesy, black light illuminated theme park ride and not the ocean. How do I create a reef environment that looks like a... reef environment?

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Easy to do with any tank, just add the light color like sun rather t han mostly blue.
Add whites, reds, greens.
 
I don't want anyone to think I am knocking their particular vision. I was just hoping for you guys to point me in the direction I myself would be looking to go when I set up my reef (hopefully next month when I move into my new house).
I think it is what pleases the eye naturally. We, humans, like saturated color, and high definition/contrast. How do you tune your TV or monitor? To dull? 10% saturation? 10% brightness? Or you want an OLED TV ?
Like you I acknowledge the difference between a reef and a tank but I like that color pop.
 
I don't want anyone to think I am knocking their particular vision. I was just hoping for you guys to point me in the direction I myself would be looking to go when I set up my reef (hopefully next month when I move into my new house).
My advice is to start with real live rock rather than the dry rock. Check out the live rock from with KP aquatics or Tampa Bay Saltwater. It’s a great way to start a reef that looks natural.

My newest tank I used dead and ended up adding live to make it look more natural and increase biodiversity. The different color coraline, sponges, etc make it much more interesting (and more natural look).

lighting is easy to dial in to what you like. I like a whiter daylight look myself, so I set my LEDs to that.
 
A lot of the "good" reefs have been decimated due to dropping pH levels and rising ocean temperatures due to increases in CO2 and changes in biodiversity within reefs outside Marine Protected Areas due to overfishing/collecting of food fish. Take the Caribbean for example. The urchin population crashed. Without the herbivorous urchins to munch away at it, algae took over a lot of reefs. This eventually choked out a lot of corals, which decimated the ecosystems that depended on coral growth. Fast forward to now, and I understand that the Caribbean, while still pretty, doesn't have nearly the same reef infrastructure as it did in the 20th century.

Like Oscar47f said, pick a place and go with it. The freshwater side of the hobby has a thing called "biotopes" where aquarists will set up aquascapes based entirely off of a certain region/area (ex. Rio Essequibo) and only including species (fish, plants, etc.) from there and try to emulate it as much as possible.

For example, if I wanted to emulate Hana'uma Bay in Hawaii, I'd drop the water temperature to like 76 F (or something like that, I just remember being really, really cold), and in a large tank, have a large number of convict tangs, and maybe one pink Pocillopora coral amongst multiple "bommies" of live rock with aragonite sand on the bottom. If I wanted to copy the Captain Cook Monument, I'd want a large number of yellow tangs, with a few overhangs, some triggerfish, a pair of milletseed butterflyfish, and maybe a red soldierfish, along with a pair or two of brain coral and some live rock and maybe a thin layer of sand.
 
If you want to see colors similar to what we have in our tanks, you need to dive where the corals are from. They’re not coming from the Caribbean, Mexico or Hawaii. They’re coming from Australia, Fiji, Indonesia. Dive there and you’ll see some spectacular colorful corals. You obviously won’t get the crazy fluorescence we can create in our tanks, but you’ll see lots of colors and types of corals.
 
Ever dive Palau?

Ah, my favorite dive location so far! The little lady and I even got engaged there on one of our visits. I felt Fiji has slightly better coral reefs, but Palau has the best of everything.
 
As an avid scuba diver, and someone who has pined for a reef tank for a long time, why is it that so many setups seem to look so.... fake? Day-glo corals and purple hues just make everything seem unrealistic. I'm sure that there are plenty of reefers who have tanks dedicated to keeping reef critters typical of particular underwater ecosystems, i.e. the Caribbean, but it seems all the tanks I come across on the web look like they came out of a cheesy, black light illuminated theme park ride and not the ocean. How do I create a reef environment that looks like a... reef environment?

Flame suit on!
What you don't like Windex bruh?
 

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