Hey guys i just bought the red sea liquid foundation pack (A,B, and C) and the dosin chart is really confusing to me. For example, my calcium is really low at 320 and i want to get it up to 440 and maintaon it at that level. By what im reading on the chart, its saying i have to dose 45ml per 25 gallons, so with my 70 gallon tank i have to dose around 130ml of calcium...i read that dosing too much at once is harmful to the corals so what should i do? Also im using the lps column
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Ok first some questions.
How's you tank looking?
What corals do you have?
Do you use a skimmer?
What are your test results from the last two weeks on ALK, CAL and Mag.
Need to know your Po4 and No3 as well as this has also to do where your levels should be at on ALK, CAL and MAG.
How's you tank looking?
What corals do you have?
Do you use a skimmer?
What are your test results from the last two weeks on ALK, CAL and Mag.
Need to know your Po4 and No3 as well as this has also to do where your levels should be at on ALK, CAL and MAG.
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Don't go over Red Sea's max dose per day or you will get precipitation.
Slowly bring up your parms (Over Several days) to.
Red Sea's accelerated growth params.
Cal=465
Alk = 12.6 dkh
Mag = 1390
Slowly bring up your parms (Over Several days) to.
Red Sea's accelerated growth params.
Cal=465
Alk = 12.6 dkh
Mag = 1390
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dosing cal for red sea https://reefapp.net/en/maintenance/dosing/calculator
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Also with an alk at 12.6 I'd stop carbon dosing to be safe.
Tank looks healthy have some algae growth on sand and corals look healthy which is why i bought the red sea coral growth program to keep them healthy.
I have
Hammer coral
Torch coral
Duncan coral
Green star polyp
Small zoa colony
Kenya tree coral
Cabbage leather coral
Australian Dendrophylla frag
Florida ricordia
Yellow finger gorgonia (stopped putting out its polyps for about a week. Started using reef roids 2x a week (1st feeding monday and second feeding Thursday) and polyps have started coming out again yesterday!)
I have an eshopps psk75 in sump skimmer that pulls nice dark skimmate usually empty it every other day because the collection cup is pretty small.
The last week i have been testing every other day my perams have been
Ammonia-0
Nitrite-0
Nitrate-0
Calcium -370 (monday attemped to dose and dosed 20ml. Overall water volume in tank is 70 gallons) and 340 (friday)
Very low which is what brought me to start this dosing thread
Phosphate- 0 (run a small algae scrubber which i believe has been keeping it at 0 or >.25ppm because i dont run gfo or any phosphate removal chemicals and algae growth is steady and ive tested it twice this week)
Kh/DKH-10(monday) dropped to 9 when i tested Friday.
Salinity-1.024
Magnesium- i have the api reef test kit and doesnt come with magnesium tester (pretty annoying) so i have the salifert magnesium test kit coming in the mail from amazon.
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Thanks for the info.
Lot of good things.
You stripping your tank from nutrients and that's why you also noticed reduced PE on you gorgonian.
Maybe try to run without your ATS.
Carbon isn't that bad as it will take out all unwanted metals you bring in with your water changes and keeps you water clean and polished.
Not sure why your CAL is dropping so much but it ain't dangerously low.
Just try to bring it up.
What do you use on ALK and CAL dosing?
Okay great ill pring everything to growth specs! I punched in the specs i had in the calculator and it really made things easier! My only problem is I don't know what my corals/coralline algae use each day so ill have to test daily for a few days to figure that out once my levels are all back up to what is needed
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Just test for ALK and No3 daily.
ALK just to know where you are on your growth program as this will tell you where your CAL and MAG is as well.
The No3 for nutrients, without nutrients your coral won't grow either.
ALK just to know where you are on your growth program as this will tell you where your CAL and MAG is as well.
The No3 for nutrients, without nutrients your coral won't grow either.
Okay that makes sense i was wondering if the ATS with the skimmer would be overkill. Ive read mixed things where people will turn their skimmer off one or two days a week or even slowly wean the skimmer off the system and just use the ATS but i would rather pull nutrients before they turn into nitrates, than have the ATS eat the nitrates and phosphates after theyre in the water.. and the red sea bottle "A" is calcium and liquid bottle "B" is alk/dkh. Bottle "C" is magnesium but ive only added 5ml twice in a week since i dont know the exact level until my test kit comes in.
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Having No3's between 2ppm and 5 ppm isn't a bad thing.
Matter the fact is I see more ppl having a elevated No3 level than just 3 years ago when the trend was lower is better.
My No3 sitting at 5 and can't get them any higher and brought my Po4 up to 0.14.
Seams my LPS reacting good on that.
Matter the fact is I see more ppl having a elevated No3 level than just 3 years ago when the trend was lower is better.
My No3 sitting at 5 and can't get them any higher and brought my Po4 up to 0.14.
Seams my LPS reacting good on that.
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Yes, Once you lock all 3 numbers in.
Test all 3 every couple of days and you will see a pattern of what your dose is for A, B and C is
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To be honest this is the hard part, I have had my tank for years (10+) and things were doing great, (was gone for a year, long story don't ask came back to neglected tank) and started back up. Before nitrates always ran a little high 5-10 range or even a little higher, was always told it's because you don't use RODI, well started tank back up and got the it cycled (yes lost all bacteria when gone) and things were striving, zap got the nitrates and phospates to 0 and wham al l of a sudden started losing SPS and Acan's, so long story short I started dosing Nitrates to see if that is the issue.
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Oh and by the way I am looking to buy a Dosing system soon since the nitrates are seeming to help, 5 days dosing and the clam is opening more than before etc.
since the nitrates are seeming to help, 5 days dosing and the clam is opening more than before etc.
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Correct
Phos and Nitrates should never be at zero.
Red Sea recommends these #'s with their accelerated growth program.
Phos. = .1ppm
Nitrates = 1-2ppm
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Enhanced Coloration or Accelerated Growth?
// Published: 03.09.2014
It is widely accepted that there is a narrow spectrum of water conditions that are suitable for keeping corals.
Red Sea’s unique research into the biochemistry of corals and their relationship with the surrounding seawater resulted in the development of the Reef Care Program. Highly advanced yet easy to implement, the programs empower hobbyists with the knowledge and materials to understand and control the fascinating environment within their aquarium.
Red Sea’s research into the long term physiological demands of SPS, LPS & Soft Corals in the reef aquarium has shown that enhanced coloration and accelerated growth require significantly different water conditions.
All coral build their skeletons by absorbing the major, minor and trace elements that they need from the surrounding water. Unlike the natural reef environment, where there is an immense reservoir of the foundation elements, the reef aquarium has limited resources that are quickly depleted by the aquarium inhabitants. Therefore, in order to enable sustainable coral growth it is necessary to maintain higher than natural levels of the foundation elements.
Original research carried out in Red Sea’s laboratory has shown that in a closed system (an aquarium) a specific ratio between the foundation elements of calcium, magnesium and carbonates (alkalinity) is necessary for coral vitality and the formation of a robust aragonite coral skeleton. This ratio must be maintained especially when increasing the levels of the foundation elements above the natural sea levels.
Corals need to invest energy in transporting the foundation and other elements necessary for skeletal growth from the surrounding water through their soft tissue. Elevated levels of the foundation elements create a more positive ionic pressure making this process much more efficient (less energy required per gram of skeleton).
Therefore balanced, elevated levels of the foundation elements will result in accelerated coral growth rates.
Red Sea Coral pro salt contains 45 of the minor and trace elements presents in reef water & together with the other components of the formula, guarantees optimal levels of 57 elements. This salt mix is ideal for reef aquariums, encouraging accelerated, healthy growth and enhanced vitality of corals.
It is relatively easy to maintain the conditions for accelerated coral growth. Maintaining the conditions for enhanced coloration is more demanding in that it requires a higher level of attention to the water parameters.
Red Sea’s research has identified 31 minor and trace elements that in addition to the foundation elements are present in the skeleton and soft tissue of all corals. These elements are also associated with the production of specific color pigments in the soft tissue of stony corals. These pigments can only be produced if the specific elements required for the bio-chemical process are available in the correct concentration. All 31 elements are required by all stony corals irrespective of the actual color the coral displays.
It is theoretically possible but not recommended to achieve both accelerated growth and advanced coloration simultaneously as the system will always be on the edge of instability.
The complete Reef Care Program provides advanced reef keeping solutions for all levels of hobbyists, with detailed instructions on achieving optimal water parameters for all types of reef aquarium.
Recommended Usage of Red Sea Salt
Recommended water parameters for accelerated coral growth
Algae nutrient levels
NO3 1-2 ppm Maintaining a relatively high population of Zooxanthellae that will provide enough energy to the corals for growth.
PO4 0.1 ppm
Foundation elements
Alkalinity 12.6dKH – 4.5 meq/l Boosted and balanced levels of the Foundation Elements to properly utilize all of the extra energy
Ca 465 ppm
Mg 1390 ppm
Minor and Trace elements – Coral Colors
I2 0.06 ppm Availability of the minor and trace elements (Coral Colors) taken up by the corals during growth
K 410 ppm
Fe 0.15 ppm
Coral Nutrients – Reef Energy
Reef Energy A 2 ml per 100 Liter/25 gal Sufficient coral nutrients (Reef Energy) to supplement the energy supplied by the Zooxanthellae
Reef Energy B 2 ml per 100 Liter/25 gal
Recommended Water Parameters For Enhanced Coral Coloration
Algae nutrient levels
NO3 0.25 ppm Maintain a reduced level of Zooxanthellae, reducing the brownish tint of the that the coral needs to receive from the environment.
PO4 0.02 ppm
Foundation elements
Alkalinity 8.2dKH / 2.9meq/L Reduced levels of the Foundation Elements to lower the energy demand from coral growth .
Ca 430 ppm
Mg 1310 ppm
Minor and Trace elements – Coral Colors
I2 0.06 ppm Availability of the minor and trace elements (Coral Colors) used in the soft tissue for increased coloration.
K 380 ppm
Fe 0.15 ppm
Coral Nutrients – Reef Energy
Reef Energy A 4 ml per 100 Liter/25 gal Increased coral nutrients (Reef Energy) to provide the additional energy that the coral needs to receive from the environment.
Reef Energy B 4 ml per 100 Liter/25 gal
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Yep, I grew up with the group that said nitrates 0 but so I always wondered why my tank looked so good if they were supposed to be 0.Correct
Phos and Nitrates should never be at zero.
Red Sea recommends these #'s with their accelerated growth program.
Phos. = .1ppm
Nitrates = 1-2ppm
@ReefNo0ob
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Enhanced Coloration or Accelerated Growth?
// Published: 03.09.2014
It is widely accepted that there is a narrow spectrum of water conditions that are suitable for keeping corals.
Red Sea’s unique research into the biochemistry of corals and their relationship with the surrounding seawater resulted in the development of the Reef Care Program. Highly advanced yet easy to implement, the programs empower hobbyists with the knowledge and materials to understand and control the fascinating environment within their aquarium.
Red Sea’s research into the long term physiological demands of SPS, LPS & Soft Corals in the reef aquarium has shown that enhanced coloration and accelerated growth require significantly different water conditions.
All coral build their skeletons by absorbing the major, minor and trace elements that they need from the surrounding water. Unlike the natural reef environment, where there is an immense reservoir of the foundation elements, the reef aquarium has limited resources that are quickly depleted by the aquarium inhabitants. Therefore, in order to enable sustainable coral growth it is necessary to maintain higher than natural levels of the foundation elements.
Original research carried out in Red Sea’s laboratory has shown that in a closed system (an aquarium) a specific ratio between the foundation elements of calcium, magnesium and carbonates (alkalinity) is necessary for coral vitality and the formation of a robust aragonite coral skeleton. This ratio must be maintained especially when increasing the levels of the foundation elements above the natural sea levels.
Corals need to invest energy in transporting the foundation and other elements necessary for skeletal growth from the surrounding water through their soft tissue. Elevated levels of the foundation elements create a more positive ionic pressure making this process much more efficient (less energy required per gram of skeleton).
Therefore balanced, elevated levels of the foundation elements will result in accelerated coral growth rates.
Red Sea Coral pro salt contains 45 of the minor and trace elements presents in reef water & together with the other components of the formula, guarantees optimal levels of 57 elements. This salt mix is ideal for reef aquariums, encouraging accelerated, healthy growth and enhanced vitality of corals.
It is relatively easy to maintain the conditions for accelerated coral growth. Maintaining the conditions for enhanced coloration is more demanding in that it requires a higher level of attention to the water parameters.
Red Sea’s research has identified 31 minor and trace elements that in addition to the foundation elements are present in the skeleton and soft tissue of all corals. These elements are also associated with the production of specific color pigments in the soft tissue of stony corals. These pigments can only be produced if the specific elements required for the bio-chemical process are available in the correct concentration. All 31 elements are required by all stony corals irrespective of the actual color the coral displays.
It is theoretically possible but not recommended to achieve both accelerated growth and advanced coloration simultaneously as the system will always be on the edge of instability.
The complete Reef Care Program provides advanced reef keeping solutions for all levels of hobbyists, with detailed instructions on achieving optimal water parameters for all types of reef aquarium.
Recommended Usage of Red Sea Salt
Recommended water parameters for accelerated coral growth
Algae nutrient levels
NO3 1-2 ppm Maintaining a relatively high population of Zooxanthellae that will provide enough energy to the corals for growth.
PO4 0.1 ppm
Foundation elements
Alkalinity 12.6dKH – 4.5 meq/l Boosted and balanced levels of the Foundation Elements to properly utilize all of the extra energy
Ca 465 ppm
Mg 1390 ppm
Minor and Trace elements – Coral Colors
I2 0.06 ppm Availability of the minor and trace elements (Coral Colors) taken up by the corals during growth
K 410 ppm
Fe 0.15 ppm
Coral Nutrients – Reef Energy
Reef Energy A 2 ml per 100 Liter/25 gal Sufficient coral nutrients (Reef Energy) to supplement the energy supplied by the Zooxanthellae
Reef Energy B 2 ml per 100 Liter/25 gal
Recommended Water Parameters For Enhanced Coral Coloration
Algae nutrient levels
NO3 0.25 ppm Maintain a reduced level of Zooxanthellae, reducing the brownish tint of the that the coral needs to receive from the environment.
PO4 0.02 ppm
Foundation elements
Alkalinity 8.2dKH / 2.9meq/L Reduced levels of the Foundation Elements to lower the energy demand from coral growth .
Ca 430 ppm
Mg 1310 ppm
Minor and Trace elements – Coral Colors
I2 0.06 ppm Availability of the minor and trace elements (Coral Colors) used in the soft tissue for increased coloration.
K 380 ppm
Fe 0.15 ppm
Coral Nutrients – Reef Energy
Reef Energy A 4 ml per 100 Liter/25 gal Increased coral nutrients (Reef Energy) to provide the additional energy that the coral needs to receive from the environment.
Reef Energy B 4 ml per 100 Liter/25 gal
Sharon Ram
