Dosing trace? DIY possible?

nanomania · Mar 15, 2018

Is it possible to dose these? Hiw to make diy? What salts to use.

Boron
Iodine (potassium iodate)
Iron
Zinc
Manganese
Bromide
Cobalt
Molybdenum
Vanadium
Rubidium
Nickle

Randy Holmes-Farley · Mar 15, 2018

Certainly you can DIY for those, and we have a number of recipes floating around.

I personally wouldn't dose rubidium (it has no known biological role) and for iodine I'd use the more bioavailable iodide.

here are some:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/diy-boron-dosing-solution.363656/

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/post-your-diy-additives-here.344149/

nanomania · Mar 16, 2018

Randy Holmes-Farley said:
Certainly you can DIY for those, and we have a number of recipes floating around.

I personally wouldn't dose rubidium (it has no known biological role) and for iodine I'd use the more bioavailable iodide.

here are some:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/diy-boron-dosing-solution.363656/

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/post-your-diy-additives-here.344149/

Wow thank you so much..

What about:

Potassium
Iodine
Iron
Bromide
Zinc
Cobalt
Nickle

Randy Holmes-Farley · Mar 16, 2018

nanomania said:
Wow thank you so much..

What about:

Potassium
Iodine
Iron
Bromide
Zinc
Cobalt
Nickle

This is my DIY iron dose using Fergon tablets from a drug store:
Take 1 tablet and dissolve in 100 mL RO/DI (overnight soak). Let the solids settle out and use the liquid. Then I dose about 1-5 mL to my 200 gallons (dose is not critical) occasionally.

One tablet is 27 mg iron, so that dose comes to about 0.3 to 1.4 mg.

Put into 200 gallons, that's about 0.4 to 1.8 ppb.

Randy Holmes-Farley · Mar 16, 2018

nanomania said:
Wow thank you so much..

What about:

Potassium
Iodine
Iron
Bromide
Zinc
Cobalt
Nickle

Potassium, use food grade potassium chloride from amazon or iherb, and this calculator:

http://www.ultimatereef.net/pages/pot_supplement/

https://www.iherb.com/pr/Now-Foods-Potassium-Chloride-Powder-8-oz-227-g/777

https://www.amazon.com/Potassium-Ch...sr=8-1&keywords=food+grade+potassium+chloride

Randy Holmes-Farley · Mar 16, 2018

nanomania said:
Wow thank you so much..

What about:

Potassium
Iodine
Iron
Bromide
Zinc
Cobalt
Nickle

For the trace metals, just get a good purity (98-99+%) without additives (if possible)
Zinc
Cobalt
Nickle

slicko · Mar 16, 2018

This is a good start. Recipe made by hans werner himself back in late 90’s this works as balanced with alk,cal addition included in the recipe.

nanomania · Mar 16, 2018

slicko said:
This is a good start. Recipe made by hans werner himself back in late 90’s this works as balanced with alk,cal addition included in the recipe.

Wow thats a great for all in one trace. Do u use it?

Randy Holmes-Farley · Mar 16, 2018

I personally would not use that entire recipe. Barium, for example, has no biological role, and I see no reason to dose it.

nanomania · Mar 16, 2018

Randy Holmes-Farley said:
I personally would not use that entire recipe. Barium, for example, has no biological role, and I see no reason to dose it.

Ok. Im too bad at formulas.. what is 7H2O? I know h2o is water, but what the number before that??

slicko · Mar 16, 2018

Yes i use a recipe a little bit modified from that, these recipes are going nuts in Australia at this moment and tanks are having huge success with color, health and growth

Randy Holmes-Farley · Mar 16, 2018

nanomania said:
Ok. Im too bad at formulas.. what is 7H2O? I know h2o is water, but what the number before that??

It means the solid crystal has seven water molecules for each FeSO4. It is unimportant except in determining potency.

nanomania · Mar 17, 2018

Ok, so here are some quiries.

Solution one:
Strontium and Barium
If Barium is not required, then is it ok to add strontium chloride in solution 2?

Solution two:
Ferrous Sulphate
Manganese Sulphate
Zinc Sulphate
Nickle Sulphate
Chromium Chloride
Cobalt Chloride

In 2liters of calcium chloride solution (Randy's 3part)

Solution 3 (can this be added ot Randy's Mag or Alk)

Potassium Iodide
Sodium Flouride

Are all the formulas correct?

nanomania · Mar 17, 2018

What about these??

Bromide
Molybdenum
Vanadium

nanomania · Mar 17, 2018

@Randy Holmes-Farley

Randy Holmes-Farley · Mar 17, 2018

Those recipes are not intended to combine into a two part. Balling was not designed that way that I know of.

The amounts are also not scaled to 1 gallon of my DIY. The strontium part, for example, is way too high for that.

Randy Holmes-Farley · Mar 17, 2018

nanomania said:
What about these??

Bromide
Molybdenum
Vanadium

My choice would be to get sodium bromide, sodium vanadate (Na3VO4 or related compounds), and sodium molybdate (Na2MO4). Potassium versions are also OK. I have not calculated amounts for any of these to add to a two part. For direct tank dosing based on Triton values, we can estimate amounts for you.

nanomania · Mar 17, 2018

Randy Holmes-Farley said:
Those recipes are not intended to combine into a two part. Balling was not designed that way that I know of.

The amounts are also not scaled to 1 gallon of my DIY. The strontium part, for example, is way too high for that.

As for strontium i remember u mentioned 8.3gms in ur calcium recepie. (500gms of cacl in total 1gallon)

nanomania · Mar 17, 2018

Randy Holmes-Farley said:
My choice would be to get sodium bromide, sodium vanadate (Na3VO4 or related compounds), and sodium molybdate (Na2MO4). Potassium versions are also OK. I have not calculated amounts for any of these to add to a two part. For direct tank dosing based on Triton values, we can estimate amounts for you.

That would be great. What concentration?

Randy Holmes-Farley · Mar 17, 2018

nanomania said:
That would be great. What concentration?

You can make a whole range of possible stock concentrations. You then just dose more or less.

I would get the materials first so we only need to do the calculations one.