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So I've been dosing brs two part for quite some time now keeping alk level stable at 7.0 with 75 ml ca/alk dosing a day. My dosing regimen is daily, about 1 ml 75 times per day. The ultimate questions is how would I get my dkh up to 8 and maintain it there?... I know it sounds like a simple question however I've tried increasing my dose by 10 ml ca/ alk and didn't notice any changes (increase in dkh) I even tried 20 mls, still no increase... then I thought to myself it might just be precipitating out.. so how do I get my alk levels to increase with my two part?? Should I bolus a big dose and get my levels up to 8 and try to see if it stays there with the same daily dose (75 ml), also wanted to add that my magnesium level is 1600 ph 8.0 nitrate 5 phosphates 0.07
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So the calculator states to add 0.3 oz of sodium carbonate which equates to about 8 mls.. for my 100 gallon.. does this mean I add that amount to my 75 ml current dose? So I would be dosing 83 ml per day and the levels should slowly rise to 8.0 dkh?
 
So the calculator states to add 0.3 oz of sodium carbonate which equates to about 8 mls.. for my 100 gallon.. does this mean I add that amount to my 75 ml current dose? So I would be dosing 83 ml per day and the levels should slowly rise to 8.0 dkh?
Change it to the brs brand your using.
 
You may want to consider a CO2 scrubber. I have had issues with my ph and alk level and since I had installed double scrubber my ph has been over 7.8 and stable. My all is always over 9. I am only dosing kalk in my 125 by the way although I have two part ready on the shelf. You may simply have to much cos in your room and the skimmer is pumping them into your aquarium water too quickly.
 
Well brs uses sodium carbonate (soda ash) I didn't see a tab with brs one...
its in there... its important as the dose per ml is in different concentrations
 
You may want to consider a CO2 scrubber. I have had issues with my ph and alk level and since I had installed double scrubber my ph has been over 7.8 and stable. My all is always over 9. I am only dosing kalk in my 125 by the way although I have two part ready on the shelf. You may simply have to much cos in your room and the skimmer is pumping them into your aquarium water too quickly.
I have both a co2 scrubber and the airline to the skimmer goes outside
 
What 2 part do you use..? I use Randy's (recipe 1) and find it very good... so cheap it is as good as free....the dosing requirement should be fairly linear..? I brought mine down from a targeted stable 3.9-4.0 meq/l to 3.4 meq/l by reducing my daily dose from about 45mls to 38 mls into 500 litres over about a week...I found it quite responsive to adjustment, I was able to see I consume about 1.8meq/l of Alkalinity a day. Maybe something else is going on..? Big fan of recipe 1.
 
What 2 part do you use..? I use Randy's (recipe 1) and find it very good... so cheap it is as good as free....the dosing requirement should be fairly linear..? I brought mine down from a targeted stable 3.9-4.0 meq/l to 3.4 meq/l by reducing my daily dose from about 45mls to 38 mls into 500 litres over about a week...I found it quite responsive to adjustment, I was able to see I consume about 1.8meq/l of Alkalinity a day. Maybe something else is going on..? Big fan of recipe 1.

I use the bulk reef supply two part ca/alk (sodium carbonate) is Randy's bulk reef supply?
 
NO.. Randy referred to is Randy Holmes Farley who amongst many things is the resident reef chemist on this forum. Among his many articles which can be accessed on this board is one on DIY 2 part. I won't attempt to summarise it but he offers two different recipes for slightly different situations ( high or low pH) and as far as I am aware you would only go the DIY route to save the cost of buying from a reputable source like BRS. My Alk and Calcium supplementation involves some food grade bicarb of soda from the supermarket and some anhydrous calcium chloride ( pool hardener) from the pool shop. My total ingredients cost is near zero..? Like $1.50 of bicarb and $2.50 of CaCl2 for about two months of dosing 500 litres...so it's just a cost thing. We don't have a BRS but I do not suggest there is anything wrong with their 2 part. I confess that I like making it myself.
 
NO.. Randy referred to is Randy Holmes Farley who amongst many things is the resident reef chemist on this forum. Among his many articles which can be accessed on this board is one on DIY 2 part. I won't attempt to summarise it but he offers two different recipes for slightly different situations ( high or low pH) and as far as I am aware you would only go the DIY route to save the cost of buying from a reputable source like BRS. My Alk and Calcium supplementation involves some food grade bicarb of soda from the supermarket and some anhydrous calcium chloride ( pool hardener) from the pool shop. My total ingredients cost is near zero..? Like $1.50 of bicarb and $2.50 of CaCl2 for about two months of dosing 500 litres...so it's just a cost thing. We don't have a BRS but I do not suggest there is anything wrong with their 2 part. I confess that I like making it myself.
Thanks for the info I will look into it. So basically you bake the sodium bicarbonate in the oven..
 
Yeah just to drive off the moisture. The only caution is to be careful to read his instructions on calcium chloride. I missed the bit about reducing the Cacl2 quantity by 20% if it is anhydrous and so it took me a while to get my balance right. Once I read the instructions properly it was dead easy.
 
Yeah just to drive off the moisture. The only caution is to be careful to read his instructions on calcium chloride. I missed the bit about reducing the Cacl2 quantity by 20% if it is anhydrous and so it took me a while to get my balance right. Once I read the instructions properly it was dead easy.
@Mindi, would you mind sharing what brand/name is the calcium chloride you are using and for how long? Any ill effects? I've been wanting to use the same recipe but heard a lot of impurities in almost all of the available brands for the calcium part. Thanks.
 
I decided to throw my two cents in here on two-part. I've had SPS corals for years and have been reefing since 1990 but have never gotten into a full-blown dosing method until I set up my rimless system with intentions to do an SPS dominant mixed reef. I researched salt mixes looking for a mix that has higher numbers of Alk, Calc, and Mag and was reasonably priced. I had been using Aquaforest for a time but the numbers on new mix were lower than what I was looking for, and I got to thinking about the fact that over the course of more than 25 years of keeping reef systems I used Kent Superbuffer dKH all the time on mixed reefs for pH and Alk and always had good success in maintaining numbers (along with weekly water changes of course). Based on the high quality of that product I decided to have a look at Kent Reef Salt. The numbers at mix are higher than most, which is what I was looking for so I ordered a bucket.

In the meantime, I was looking at info from other reefers regarding two-part and came across a link to a blog by Joe Jaworski and read his take on two-part, wherein he writes about how critical it is to use two-part where both parts are from the same manufacturer because they're geared to work together and how many folks aren't successful with dosing because they use product from different manufacturers that are not designed for each other. That made sense to me and I decided to take it one step further and go with Kent's Two-Part Tech CB because I had already decided to use Kent Reef Salt due to the higher numbers at mix.

I should add that between the time I started using the Kent Reef Salt and Kent Two-Part Tech CB, my numbers were fluctuating regularly and before adding higher end SPS I wanted to get my numbers spot on and consistent. For anyone who might be interested, here's the link to Joe's blog where you can read his full article: https://joejaworski.wordpress.com.

In his article, Joe also suggests testing Alk, Calc, and Mag on a new batch of your mix so you know what you have while attempting to get your numbers in line. I mixed a batch of Kent Reef Salt and as stated on the label, my Calc at mix to 1.026 was 440, ph was 8.3, and Mag was 1450. I also tested Alk, and it was at 10.3 at mix. I then did a 20G water change (100G total tank volume) with the mix. I waited a day to recheck my numbers, and low and behold my pH was at 8.3, Alk was 10, Calc was 420, and Mag was 1350. These were the best numbers I'd had in some time. I tested the numbers for a couple days thereafter and they dropped off a bit so I started dosing the Kent Tech CB two-part using the methods Joe describes in his article. One of the main things he emphasizes is after you do your first two-part dose, wait a full week before you test your numbers because it takes some time for them to balance out. As he suggested, I waited a week and tested all numbers and they were spot on! Alk was 10, Calc 420, Mag 1400, pH 8.3! These are the numbers I'm seeing regularly now using the Kent Reef Salt and Kent Two-Part Tech CB. I used the dosage recommended by Kent on their containers, but Joe does offer dosing numbers, too. If you're having issues with getting your numbers where they need to be, have a look at Joe Jaworski's two-part article. He also does his best to answer any questions you might have about dosing. You may also want to have a look at Kent Reef Salt and their two-part Tech CB, too.

The other great thing Joe suggests if you don't already have a dosing system and will be doing it manually, pick up Bettix bottles for dosing. They're simple to use (one for each part of your two-part) and accurate in doses. I ordered mine from Bulk Reef and they work great! I hope this information is helpful to those who have struggled with dosing over time. Happy reefing!
 

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