Dry rock be live rock

[saltwater newby]

hello everyone
Happy thanks giving!!
Im wondering if starting my first reef tank 2 years ago with dry rock was a good idea,specially considering the fact that i did it to save money and knew nothing about the hobby. I had no idea of the fact that live rock brings a lot of beneficial bacteria and diversity that dry rock doesn’t and aside from some possible critters it starts a system off on the right foot. I have been looking into adding bacteria and diversity to my system to help deal with algae and cyano but I’m getting lost with all the products out there. What would you guys recommend as a good way to add beneficial bacteria and diversity to my system. I barely have coralline algae present in my system only a few spots here and there mainly on the glass. For filtration i run a protein skimmer,nopox on dosing pump and an algae reactor with chaeto and the usual rock and live sand from day one. I’ve been micro bubbles for 2 weeks now water is clearer for sure and I ordered from brs Black Friday sales a marine pure block I’m waiting for it to arrive tomorrow. I use ro/di for water changes from day 1 also and Tds is 0. I do 10% water changes weekly 75 gallon Red Sea Reefer.
Basic Parameters
Nitrate 2-5 salifert
PO 4 is 0.167 Hanna low phosphorus checker it’s on the higher side and I’m blaming the live rock.
Calcium 420
Alk 8.1
Mag 1360
All with Red Sea rest kits

 

[brandon429]

It’s not the rock, it’s using a hands off reefing approach that causes algae and cyano probs

No doser or additive is required though they’re popular nowadays

Never easy to pinpoint algae reactions agreed...people advise so many different ways, we have to choose a way and run it

Post pics of your tank, I’ll quote what we use to stop algae in huge algae fix threads. At least our way comes with about five hundred tank examples in live threads, helps in choosing options.

Per those threads, the number one cause of algae is simple import and then a reefer staring at it while it takes over. We unfeeeze their reactions and get permission to act in the huge algae correction threads your tank is no different

There is no algae phase, I have examples of ten yr old tanks in your condition or ten day old ones. Inaction is what we remedy, not algae.

 

[saltwater newby]

It’s not the rock, it’s using a hands off reefing approach that causes algae and cyano probs

No doser or additive is required though they’re popular nowadays

Never easy to pinpoint algae reactions agreed...people advise so many different ways, we have to choose a way and run it

Post pics of your tank, I’ll quote what we use to stop algae in huge algae fix threads. At least our way comes with about five hundred tank examples in live threads, helps in choosing options.

Per those threads, the number one cause of algae is simple import and then a reefer staring at it while it takes over. We unfeeeze their reactions and get permission to act in the huge algae correction threads your tank is no different

There is no algae phase, I have examples of ten yr old tanks in your condition or ten day old ones. Inaction is what we remedy, not algae.

Sounds good
I’ve messed around with chemiclean (several applications)
Siphon the sand several times always comes back

 

[brandon429]

I really like that you have not hesitated, you are acting early and that pic reveals all.

Your tank is acting exactly as a new reef in nature would, the specific grazers for that light patching aren't here yet, the organism grows back bc it's as legit as new corals on a new reef, there should be nothing dosed to the tank for a natural event... continue hand guiding. If it comes back, so does my need for topoff

Hand guiding and tank maturation stops that growth.

We just legitimized that growth. It will stop, keep simply interrupting its mat presence, its resource builder, it'll stop. Large tanks can use UV light, do search, to stop those consistently since they have a water transition phase. These two methods don't harm non targets and they don't train people to affect the entire water column for something that's directly in balance compared to what divers see on a natural reef. they are target specific actions, which is all in these threads below. The masses advise oppostiely, usually. But I think doing what the masses do keeps tank restoration threads busy, ironically.

 

[brandon429]

This is not about dumping peroxide or any other med in reaction. They're case studies to see before n afters

These threads reveal specifically for you to trend out:

Hesitation and it's price.

What happens across a group of tanks that follow 1998 sandbed rules


Matching an action to the invader, are they anchored types or not?

Placing the onus/responsibility on the keeper for a clean tank, not some turn of events controlled by the slightest change in nutrient profiles. We're learning internal vs external locus of control traits here, and photographing the outcome.

We don't care about someone's nutrient levels in all those pages I never asked once I don't think, it's been like nine years now.

We get people to handle their invader, and the substrate they rode in on, vs attacking the water, which did no harm

We get people to stop using clean up crews to be algae free (external locus) and we only use gfo, no pox, ats, UV, detailed nutrient chasing etc on the clean, uninvaded tank a keeper caused by directly removing the target (internal locus, takes responsibility as prime grazer)

Peroxide did not get these results, using the angles above in correct order of operations sure did. Hope this changes your reefing forever and you simply opt out of headaches before they come, and they will. You'll import worse than that, all tank invaders are featured below. I don't recall a single unpredicted tank loss in all that work. Avoiding work is what made many of them show up, many thought deep cleaning a tank will harm it or set it back

reinstatement of work is what fixed the tank, the opposite of their concern.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/r...lenge-thread-hydrogen-peroxide.187042/page-17


https://www.nano-reef.com/forums/topic/268706-peroxide-saves-my-tank-with-pics-to-prove-it/?page=65


http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2082359


https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/the-official-sand-rinse-thread-aka-one-against-many.230281/

 

[saltwater newby]

It’s not the rock, it’s using a hands off reefing approach that causes algae and cyano probs

No doser or additive is required though they’re popular nowadays

Never easy to pinpoint algae reactions agreed...people advise so many different ways, we have to choose a way and run it

Post pics of your tank, I’ll quote what we use to stop algae in huge algae fix threads. At least our way comes with about five hundred tank examples in live threads, helps in choosing options.

Per those threads, the number one cause of algae is simple import and then a reefer staring at it while it takes over. We unfeeeze their reactions and get permission to act in the huge algae correction threads your tank is no different

There is no algae phase, I have examples of ten yr old tanks in your condition or ten day old ones. Inaction is what we remedy, not algae.

This is not about dumping peroxide or any other med in reaction. They're case studies to see before n afters

These threads reveal specifically for you to trend out:

Hesitation and it's price.

What happens across a group of tanks that follow 1998 sandbed rules


Matching an action to the invader, are they anchored types or not?

Placing the onus/responsibility on the keeper for a clean tank, not some turn of events controlled by the slightest change in nutrient profiles. We're learning internal vs external locus of control traits here, and photographing the outcome.

We don't care about someone's nutrient levels in all those pages I never asked once I don't think, it's been like nine years now.

We get people to handle their invader, and the substrate they rode in on, vs attacking the water, which did no harm

We get people to stop using clean up crews to be algae free (external locus) and we only use gfo, no pox, ats, UV, detailed nutrient chasing etc on the clean, uninvaded tank a keeper caused by directly removing the target (internal locus, takes responsibility as prime grazer)

Peroxide did not get these results, using the angles above in correct order of operations sure did. Hope this changes your reefing forever and you simply opt out of headaches before they come, and they will. You'll import worse than that, all tank invaders are featured below. I don't recall a single unpredicted tank loss in all that work. Avoiding work is what made many of them show up, many thought deep cleaning a tank will harm it or set it back

reinstatement of work is what fixed the tank, the opposite of their concern.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/r...lenge-thread-hydrogen-peroxide.187042/page-17


https://www.nano-reef.com/forums/topic/268706-peroxide-saves-my-tank-with-pics-to-prove-it/?page=65


http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2082359


https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/the-official-sand-rinse-thread-aka-one-against-many.230281/

ok
Sounds awesome can’t wait to dig into all these links and learning some new things. Thanks a lot!! I’ll keep you posted.