Dual/split sump/fuge

[19jonesy86]

Hi all, I'm new here please be gentle! Lol so been looking at starting a marine tank and was looking at the options for a sump! My cabinet under my 300l tank is split into 2 sides separated by a load bearing center board so I had an idea of having two sump tanks one for skimmer and the other for fuge and return! Was wondering if anyone has any experience with this kind of setup?

Also, I plan to use an overflow system as don't want to drill the tank, and currently the tank I want to use is housing freshwater tropical fish, if I removed the fish could I simply just add salt to the current water or not?

Sorry for any daft questions and I look forward to your replys!

 

[19jonesy86]

Was thinking something like this!

 

[19jonesy86]

Also my question about the adding of salt to the water in my tank already wasn't for a speedier cycle because I know it wouldn't work like that it was for the sake of not having to lug 300l of RO water from lfs, but if that's what I have to do then so be it!

 

[R€€F @DD¡ÇT]

Don't see a problem with linking two sumps but I'd drill it.

 

[Reefer_mon_]

Aren't there going to be ***** micro bubbles from the overflow reaching the return or is there some kind of bubble trap? Hard to tell from the pic angle. Because in the rendering drawing the pumps on the 2nd sumps left side away from the splashing of the overflow

 

[Brett H whitt]

I would recommend completely draining your tank. Clean it out and add new RO\DI water. Always better to start fresh and make sure you do not inherit anything bad from the old water. For 300 gallons you can buy a RO\DI system from http://www.melevsreef.com/catalog/rodi-systems. I have been using one of his systems for over a year and they are very good.

I would look at getting someone to install a ghost overflow system for your tank. The hang on overflows are problematic in my opinion. If you ever lose the siphon, you are going to have one heck of a mess.


No idea about the dual sumps, hopefully someone else can chime in about this

 

[19jonesy86]

There is a bubble trap in the skimmer sump!

 

[19jonesy86]

I would recommend completely draining your tank. Clean it out and add new RO\DI water. Always better to start fresh and make sure you do not inherit anything bad from the old water. For 300 gallons you can buy a RO\DI system from http://www.melevsreef.com/catalog/rodi-systems. I have been using one of his systems for over a year and they are very good.

I would look at getting someone to install a ghost overflow system for your tank. The hang on overflows are problematic in my opinion. If you ever lose the siphon, you are going to have one heck of a mess.


No idea about the dual sumps, hopefully someone else can chime in about this

Yeah thought as much, but you never know until you ask, haha have been looking at the RO/DI systems but have no idea where I'd plumb it in in my house! My tanks 300 ltrs so works out about 90 US gals I think so wouldn't be too bad!

 

[Brett H whitt]

The RO\DI systems come with all the fittings you need to hook the system up to your sink, or an exterior faucet. When I filled my tanks, I just ran the tubing from my home made portable water change station to my tank and then went to bed. They are not very fast. it depends on how much water pressure you have in the house.


My RO\DI system is attached to my portable water change system. I used a 2’X2’ furniture dolly, a few 2X4’s and a rubber made container. Nothing special but it works well.

 

[Nibejeebies]

A brute grey blue or white trash can are ideally food grade and you can get a attachment for the bottom of the can that has wheels, and it locks into place, I have my rodi system ran through the lid of that with a float vaule that turns the water off when it's full I keep around 30 gallons at all times or so when I get back I'll post a pic if you'll like

 

[19jonesy86]

A brute grey blue or white trash can are ideally food grade and you can get a attachment for the bottom of the can that has wheels, and it locks into place, I have my rodi system ran through the lid of that with a float vaule that turns the water off when it's full I keep around 30 gallons at all times or so when I get back I'll post a pic if you'll like

That'd be great thanks

 

[dbl]

Welcome to the R2R. I would also recommend drilling the display if it's not tempered glass.

Definitely start with new water. Rinse and clean and start fresh, whether you buy the water from the LFS or make it yourself. My two pennies worth anyway!

 

[19jonesy86]

I think with it being my first SW tank I'm going to go for the overflow first off see how it goes then eventually may drill it, that way I can have experience with both! Going to go with this set up as seems pretty good with power outage!

 

[Nibejeebies]

Pics as promised

This is while I was flushing the membrane ( you want to do this for 10 mintues or so to clear out total desovled solids that may be stuck in the membrane, this extends the life of your DI Resin)

I took a drill bit that was about the same size of the line from the RODI unit into the dead middle of the lid and drilled it out to allow for pushing the tube into the lid, a very tight fit.

The float vaule works in conjunction with the auto shut off built into this unit....

When the float valve is lifted it crimps the blue "product water" line, this builds back pressure that the autoshutoff valve picks up on and it in turn crimps the red water line which is the collection line that is either hard plumbed into your plumbing or it from your sink fosset.

This model makes 75gpd which is really a misnomer as 75gpd is actually 75g in about 12-15 hours.

You can go up to 150gpd with this unit.

Bulk reef supply is one of my first stops for dry goods.

Your first step is to find out rather your water is treated with chlorine or chloriamines. That will determine which rodi system you need.
Here's a link for Chlorine systems, Like I have.
http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/bulk-...ms/reverse-osmosis-systems/value-systems.html

 

[19jonesy86]

Pics as promised

This is while I was flushing the membrane ( you want to do this for 10 mintues or so to clear out total desovled solids that may be stuck in the membrane, this extends the life of your DI Resin)

I took a drill bit that was about the same size of the line from the RODI unit into the dead middle of the lid and drilled it out to allow for pushing the tube into the lid, a very tight fit.

The float vaule works in conjunction with the auto shut off built into this unit....

When the float valve is lifted it crimps the blue "product water" line, this builds back pressure that the autoshutoff valve picks up on and it in turn crimps the red water line which is the collection line that is either hard plumbed into your plumbing or it from your sink fosset.

This model makes 75gpd which is really a misnomer as 75gpd is actually 75g in about 12-15 hours.

You can go up to 150gpd with this unit.

Bulk reef supply is one of my first stops for dry goods.

Your first step is to find out rather your water is treated with chlorine or chloriamines. That will determine which rodi system you need.
Here's a link for Chlorine systems, Like I have.
http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/bulk-...ms/reverse-osmosis-systems/value-systems.html

That's great thanks for the info will definatley look into this!

 

[Nibejeebies]

Very welcome, And if you have any questions at all ask them here, and either I or some of the other extremely knowledgeable people on this form will help you out!

Now I should point out you dont have to go with a BRS or a Melvsreef. You can use any quality RODI. Its kind of a walmart vs kmart or ford vs chevy type of thing. Just Research the brand and read reviews on them before you buy one. Dont buy one from ebay though. Also, this is one of those things that would be more expensive if you were to by used as well, because any used unit will need all new filters which when replacing all of the filters and the resin will simply be maybe around $10 less than buying a brand new unit.

Your LFS may have one of these in stock as well.