Dwarf Angels always dies

Bengt · Mar 25, 2017

Hi

My Dwarf Angels always dies for me, I don´t know why.
So far 4 Centropyge Acantops and 4 Centropyge Bisponosus has dies.

I have Zebrasoma Flavecsens and Paracanthurus hepatus and Gramma Loreto, Chromis, and neon damsels and even mandarines fishes all is in good shape.

It started with that the fish is shy and after a week or so it dies, they eat even when they are shy but then they hide again. I tried everything I think.

With ozone or without, that the same.
With UV or not, that the same.
With carbon or no carbon, that the same.
Different food, no different.

I have the aquarium going 10 month, Tropic Marin Pro Reef and Blue Treasure salt.

Any proposal would be nice.

Thanks!

Areseebee · Mar 25, 2017

How big is the tank, do you do any QT?

Tahoe61 · Mar 25, 2017

How are you acclimating the fish? Have you tested the SG from the source and compared the SG to your system? Are you getting the fish from one vendor?

eatbreakfast · Mar 25, 2017

If you don't qt, then it is possible for there to be a disease, such as velvet, that the existing fish are immune to, but that affects new additions.

Bengt · Mar 25, 2017

The tank is a Red Sea Reefer 250 I have no QT.

ebushrow · Mar 25, 2017

How do you acclimate? Do you fw dip?

Bengt · Mar 25, 2017

With a thin hose dripping 30 minutes then Put The fish in aquarium and then flush The water in Bucket to drainage.

ebushrow · Mar 25, 2017

Bengt said:
With a thin hose dripping 30 minutes then Put The fish in aquarium and then flush The water in Bucket to drainage.

So no freswh water dip...correct

Bengt · Mar 25, 2017

No freshwater dip.

CarrieB · Mar 25, 2017

I've read that angels are sensitive to copper. Is it possible that you have copper in your tank?

ebushrow · Mar 25, 2017

Since you are not qt'ing or fw dipping, I have to assume that it's either sick fish (especially if sourced from the same store) and that they are succumbing to a disease already in your system or they are bringing it with them from the source store....I would guess....and with little info it is a guess.... that it's probably velvet along with flukes. The hiding is considered cryptic behavior and is a tell tale sign of ich and velvet IME....

I'm not sure what blu treuasure salt is, but I assume it is not an additive but another salt mix.

What is your plan for this tank? Reef, fowlr, etc. The process of treating your fish will depend on where you want your tank to go.

wkscott · Mar 25, 2017

Your tank is about 65 gallons and you have both a yellow and blue tang in there. They can be extremely aggressive to newcommers, especially the yellow one. If it's not disease then it's very likely that your existing yellow and blue tangs may be harassing them to death when you aren't looking.