Dying Trumpet Coral

[Dburr1014]

id did seem a little long it was a 10ml solution with a litre of water to get hitchhikers off, i did use tapwater while doing that

Oh, there it is.
You have to use tank water. Coral is not good in fresh water. This is what killed it.
Sorry for your loss.

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

id did seem a little long it was a 10ml solution with a litre of water to get hitchhikers off, i did use tapwater while doing that

That is likely the issue... Chlorine that's generally in tap water is toxic to coral (and fish). And never dip corals in freshwater.

 

[Tbg299]

@Tbg299 , a little reading for you...

Ask Reef Builders #3: How Long Should I Cycle A Reef Tank Before Putting Corals In? | Reef Builders | The Reef and Saltwater Aquarium Blog

You don’t. The short answer is that technically, there is no evidence that you need to cycle an aquarium before putting corals in. Now before you start pulling out your proverbial pitchforks and burn…

reefbuilders.com

This article is a joke... and I'm not even going to waste my time proving how every specious point in this author's argument is wrong. I was really amused by the logical fallacy of "corals do not contain hemoglobin, so therefore ammonia can't harm them" though. I highly advise you to not instruct newcomers based on what you gathered from some anecdotal article.

 

[((FORDTECH))]

It is most likely the tap water that killed the coral. Must use tank water next time.

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

This article is a joke... and I'm not even going to waste my time proving how every specious point in this author's argument is wrong. I was really amused by the logical fallacy of "corals do not contain hemoglobin, so therefore ammonia can't harm them" though. I highly advise you to not instruct newcomers based on what you gathered from some anecdotal article.

I can explain it to you but can't understand it for you.
What is so complicated about the idea that creatures with blood are affected differently by ammonia than those without?
Professional coral farmers actually dose ammonia regularly to their fishless systems as it is necessary coral food...

 

[Justdrew]

I can explain it to you but can't understand it for you.
What is so complicated about the idea that creatures with blood are affected differently by ammonia than those without?
Professional coral farmers actually dose ammonia regularly to their fishless systems as it is necessary coral food...

They’re not dosing it as a primary food source. It is being dosed to maintain bacteria populations in the absence of ammonia produced by fish. Yes some ammonia can be utilized by corals but not the amount added for bacteria.

 

[gbroadbridge]

They’re not dosing it as a primary food source. It is being dosed to maintain bacteria populations in the absence of ammonia produced by fish. Yes some ammonia can be utilized by corals but not the amount added for bacteria.

I dose ammonia as a primary food source for coral in my tank. Yes it has fish too.

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

They’re not dosing it as a primary food source. It is being dosed to maintain bacteria populations in the absence of ammonia produced by fish. Yes some ammonia can be utilized by corals but not the amount added for bacteria.

Sorry, try again.

 

[Justdrew]

I dose ammonia as a primary food source for coral in my tank. Yes it has fish too.

It has fish too. So there is a nitrogen cycle. I am not disputing corals uptake ammonia. But without a nitrogen cycle, if allowed to accumulate it will reach a toxic level.

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

It has fish too. So there is a nitrogen cycle. I am not disputing corals uptake ammonia. But without a nitrogen cycle, if allowed to accumulate it will reach a toxic level.

This makes absolutely no sense. Nitrifying bacteria are everywhere and will find their way into a tank regardless of what you do. "Without a nitrogen cycle" is a nonsensical phrase.

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

This thread has moved well off track from the original post.
If someone does not understand how ammonia, etc works in the aquarium, there are MANY threads to read through already.
Good luck to you all.

 

[Justdrew]

This makes absolutely no sense. Nitrifying bacteria are everywhere and will find their way into a tank regardless of what you do. "Without a nitrogen cycle" is a nonsensical phrase.

Telling a "Newbie" to reefing not to worry about ammonia is nonsensical. I understand where you are going. Nitrifying bacteira are everywhere. Not all of the ammonia will be used as food. The majority will be converted, rather quickly. Yes corals can use ammonia as food. Without nitrifying bacteria it will build to toxic levels.

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

Telling a "Newbie" to reefing not to worry about ammonia is nonsensical. I understand where you are going. Nitrifying bacteira are everywhere. Not all of the ammonia will be used as food. The majority will be converted, rather quickly. Yes corals can use ammonia as food. Without nitrifying bacteria it will build to toxic levels.

Don't put words in my mouth! I never told anyone "not to worry about ammonia".