EB832 vs EB8

[Devaji]

The power mo itoring is very useful. As sometimes a pump may die and you can check for current drawl to send email that a pump is not functioning.

oh yeah no doubt 832 have some very nice features for sure! if money was no issue I would 100% grab another.

anyone know if there is a list somewhere that clearly stats side by side the 2? be nice to see.

 

[ca1ore]

The power mo itoring is very useful. As sometimes a pump may die and you can check for current drawl to send email that a pump is not functioning.

Are you doing that? Would be interested in the program statements to do it.

 

[scuzy]

Are you doing that? Would be interested in the program statements to do it.

I am. If output return < 25 watts then on

This with email me when the outlet is on but pump is not drawing more than 25 watts which tells me that something is wrong. Either pump is dead or something blocking it. You can do that for heaters and everything else.

I had my heater in the overflow and one time my return pump broke and the heater was left on over night. Good thing I caught it or I would of burned down something. So I upgraded to the Apex 2016 . I'm sure there is it easier ways like float switches or flow monitor but the added redundancy of detecting power out weights it for me.

 

[ca1ore]

Thanks, that's very helpful (and simple LOL). I am using a bunch of the flow sensors, but they get fouled mechanically with some frequency; so a flow = 0 reading does not necessarily mean the pump is out. If flow = 0 AND a wonky power reading, then the pump is having problems.

 

[vetteguy53081]

I have the 2016 Apex myself and ideally would utilize another EB832 but am currently using an attached EB8 and no issue with compatibility and programming outlets.
Many popping up on R2R I have noticed over the last month at $100 average cost shipped.

 

[Devaji]

well I just went for the extra Eb832...I had some points in my cart to help so I just went for it. still not sure maybe I should have got a doser to help with the big 3??

 

[Ferrell]

I bought an EB8 on Black Friday just to plug my brs 1.1dosers in and some small items into, freeing up 2 outlets on the 832 for items I want to monitor power consumption on.

 

[rtn]

I found that some items make more sense to be plugged into a regular power strip to help free up Apex outlets. There's no need for the power supply for the FMM, for example, to be managed by the Apex itself. It's just on and it stays on.

There's one other difference between the EB832 and the EB8/EB4, maximum voltage. If you have a large heater, for example, the EB832 won't handle the voltage draw, but it might be okay with the EB4. Maybe an outlier, but one more thing to consider.

 

[Devaji]

I found that some items make more sense to be plugged into a regular power strip to help free up Apex outlets. There's no need for the power supply for the FMM, for example, to be managed by the Apex itself. It's just on and it stays on.

There's one other difference between the EB832 and the EB8/EB4, maximum voltage. If you have a large heater, for example, the EB832 won't handle the voltage draw, but it might be okay with the EB4. Maybe an outlier, but one more thing to consider.

yes that was one of my thoughts to as I understand it the classic eb8 has 10 amp plugs where the new on can only 7.
I got two 300W heaters for the system that was what got me heading down the path of another eb8/eb832.

time was running out so I just got the 832 guess I can set up my system and if I don't need it I can exchange it for something else. but come on once we have it are we really gonna trade it out?? haha

@Ferrell I know I was going back in forth so much guess we will see but yes I agree some things just don't need the control-ability of an apex.

 

[ca1ore]

Outlet amperage is a bit of a mixed bag. Old EB8 has two @ 10 amps (the relay outlets), but the rest are 5 and they can have issues switching small loads. EB4 has one @12 amps, the rest are 8 if memory serves; all are relays so no problem switching small loads. EB832 is all 7 amp relay outlets I believe, so no issues with small loads either. Really big loads (like a chiller) are best done outside the apex (mine is 13.5 amps). I use a couple of 500 watt finnex (4.5 amps each) on the 832 without issue. 800 watt model might be a problem (9 amps); but then I think that a single, large heater is a flawed approach anyhow.

 

[Devaji]

Outlet amperage is a bit of a mixed bag. Old EB8 has two @ 10 amps (the relay outlets), but the rest are 5 and they can have issues switching small loads. EB4 has one @12 amps, the rest are 8 if memory serves; all are relays so no problem switching small loads. EB832 is all 7 amp relay outlets I believe, so no issues with small loads either. Really big loads (like a chiller) are best done outside the apex (mine is 13.5 amps). I use a couple of 500 watt finnex (4.5 amps each) on the 832 without issue. 800 watt model might be a problem (9 amps); but then I think that a single, large heater is a flawed approach anyhow.

I was looking at the finnex 500W 2 of them...went back in forth just like the eb8 VS 832...late Monday night I just bought the 832 and 2X 300X eheim. good to know you not having issues with the heaters on your 832.

I might send them back and get the finnex I like that there not breakable like the thin glass of the Eheims ...

 

[DarkTang]

Does the black label EB8 work with the new Apex?

 

[Devaji]

Does the black label EB8 work with the new Apex?

yes it dose. might be a good option for all your systems if you dont need all the bells and whistles of the 832...