Ecotech g3 pro upgrade or ati 6 bulb sunpower

[rockinzebra457]

I have a 60 gallon cube that measure 24 x 24 x 24 and have a radion g1 over the tank.

Im wanting to move more into sps as I already have a few pieces and the color and growth are not the greatest.

Should I upgrade my radion to a g3 pro or just forget the radion fixture and move to an ati t5 fixture. Thabks for the help.

 

[rockinzebra457]

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[Sdoutreefer]

I have the G2 and get great growth... maybe look into your light settings? Radions are more than capable of growing SPS.

SPS need more than just lighting to grow. What are your params? How stable is your tank? Stability is the number one most important key in growing SPS.

IMO, going to a 6 bulb fixture would be downgrading.

 

[Sdoutreefer]

Also how long have you had the pieces? And what SPS are they?

 

[mfinn]

I upgraded my gen 1Radion to the gen 3 and I'm glad I did.
I added the wide angle lens kit instead of the tirs because my tank is 30" wide and only 20" deep.

 

[rockinzebra457]

I have the G2 and get great growth... maybe look into your light settings? Radions are more than capable of growing SPS.

SPS need more than just lighting to grow. What are your params? How stable is your tank? Stability is the number one most important key in growing SPS.

IMO, going to a 6 bulb fixture would be downgrading.

Thanks for the reply

My parameters are
Alk 7.112 Dkh- Hanna checker normally goes between 7 -8.5dkh
Phopshate- 0.036ppm - Hanna phosphorous checker
Nitrate- 0.25ppm - Red sea pro test kit
Ph 8.19- Hanna Checker
Temp 78.8
Salinty 1.025
Calcium 350ppm - Red sea pro test
Mag 1440ppm - Red sea pro test

Im running about 7 tbsp of bulk reef supply GFO in a reactor.
Ive started to drip Kalk with a kalk stirrer in an aqua lifter pump.
Vertex omega 150 skimmer.

Ive had most of these pieces for more than 6 months and most of my montis have faded alot and have little to no PE.
The ones that were inquestion was an acro and a orange digi.
Thanks for any help and let me know if you need any more info.

 

[rockinzebra457]

I upgraded my gen 1Radion to the gen 3 and I'm glad I did.
I added the wide angle lens kit instead of the tirs because my tank is 30" wide and only 20" deep.

Any pics of what it looks like with the upgraded radion and is it the pro?

 

[mfinn]

Any pics of what it looks like with the upgraded radion and is it the pro?

I haven't taken any pictures lately.
No it's not the Pro.

 

[rockinzebra457]

I haven't taken any pictures lately.
No it's not the Pro.

So you had the same fixture I was thinking about switching too and you like the radion just as much?
Could you send me your lighting schedule?

 

[Sdoutreefer]

Thanks for the reply

My parameters are
Alk 7.112 Dkh- Hanna checker normally goes between 7 -8.5dkh
Phopshate- 0.036ppm - Hanna phosphorous checker
Nitrate- 0.25ppm - Red sea pro test kit
Ph 8.19- Hanna Checker
Temp 78.8
Salinty 1.025
Calcium 350ppm - Red sea pro test
Mag 1440ppm - Red sea pro test

Im running about 7 tbsp of bulk reef supply GFO in a reactor.
Ive started to drip Kalk with a kalk stirrer in an aqua lifter pump.
Vertex omega 150 skimmer.

Ive had most of these pieces for more than 6 months and most of my montis have faded alot and have little to no PE.
The ones that were inquestion was an acro and a orange digi.
Thanks for any help and let me know if you need any more info.

Hmm.. whats your lighting schedule? Could be too much light.. do you feed any coral food or dose some type of aminos?

My lighting schedule got screwed up somehow and was peeking at 100% for like 3 hours on my 40b and could not figure out why everything I put in was bleaching then I checked and peeking at 100% is waaayyy too high. At 70% I still get some that bleach. Post your lighting schedule and let's go from there.

 

[rockinzebra457]

Hmm.. whats your lighting schedule? Could be too much light.. do you feed any coral food or dose some type of aminos?

My lighting schedule got screwed up somehow and was peeking at 100% for like 3 hours on my 40b and could not figure out why everything I put in was bleaching then I checked and peeking at 100% is waaayyy too high. At 70% I still get some that bleach. Post your lighting schedule and let's go from there.

Its from about 12 to 12 and peaks out at about 50% total intensity. I just changed it today to come on from 1 to about 12 with a total intensity of 45 percent and the red white and green dont come above 50 percent on the sliders. The whites are also only on from about 4 to 9 pm.
Im really starting to think its the way I have the light schedule and alkalinity.

 

[mfinn]

So you had the same fixture I was thinking about switching too and you like the radion just as much?
Could you send me your lighting schedule?

Yeah, had the gen 1 for about 2 years. Now with the upgrade to a gen 3 ( not pro) for $175, I have a light that I always liked, now I like the colors better. And I have new leds in the fixture. Same awesome control, better color.

Not sure how to send the schedule.
I use the high growth program that maxes out at 65% on my lps/sps tank.
It starts at 9am to 10am at 10% then ramps up to the 65% at 11:30, continues to 4pm and starts ramping down and shuts of at 8pm.
While in ESL on the high growth program, I clicked on the first high point of the day and changed that to 20k. Did the same for the other high point.
Then in the middle of the two 20k high points, I double clicked in the graph line and created another set point and made it 14k.
I disabled any moon light, night lighting.

 

[rockinzebra457]

Yeah, had the gen 1 for about 2 years. Now with the upgrade to a gen 3 ( not pro) for $175, I have a light that I always liked, now I like the colors better. And I have new leds in the fixture. Same awesome control, better color.

Not sure how to send the schedule.
I use the high growth program that maxes out at 65% on my lps/sps tank.
It starts at 9am to 10am at 10% then ramps up to the 65% at 11:30, continues to 4pm and starts ramping down and shuts of at 8pm.
While in ESL on the high growth program, I clicked on the first high point of the day and changed that to 20k. Did the same for the other high point.
Then in the middle of the two 20k high points, I double clicked in the graph line and created another set point and made it 14k.
I disabled any moon light, night lighting.

Okay sweet ill have to give that a try. How do you change each point separately for overall intensity?

 

[golfnut1232]

I think your problem is that calcium at 350 is pretty low. I would say somewhere between 400 and 450 with little fluctuation is going to drastically going to improve your ability to keep sps happy.

 

[Mike J.]

I thought that this was going to be a vote between the 6 bulb T5 and the radion, and I was going to suggest the T5. I have 8 bulb T5's over two tanks. But looking at your tank dimension - it's the perfect size for a 400 watt metal halide.

 

[rockinzebra457]

Heres some pics I took of it today.

 

[rockinzebra457]

I think your problem is that calcium at 350 is pretty low. I would say somewhere between 400 and 450 with little fluctuation is going to drastically going to improve your ability to keep sps happy.

I added some calcium today to raise that a little. I thought Kalk was suppose to be keeping up with that

 

[mfinn]

Okay sweet ill have to give that a try. How do you change each point separately for overall intensity?

Double click on it and it takes you to the page where all the colors are listed separately. It has a preset color temp on the right where the custom tab is.
I don't change the intensity there as I set it to a maximum on the program page.
I only change the color.
I guess you could change the intensity there.

 

[rockinzebra457]

When I try just changing the color and leaving the intensity at 100 and just changing the overall intestiy of 45%. It looks like its gonna be way to strong on the graph.

Double click on it and it takes you to the page where all the colors are listed separately. It has a preset color temp on the right where the custom tab is.
I don't change the intensity there as I set it to a maximum on the program page.
I only change the color.
I guess you could change the intensity there.