Electrostatic charge

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Theories in water science is great, but silver (from material science classes) is known to oxidize. Which tend to flake especially in the presence of H2S...

Langmuir is a highly respected journal, and I truly and sincerely applaud you.

But how many dissertations have been proven false over the years?

Our papers show an idealized aspect of the understanding of the world around us... our white papers hypothesize one or two controllable aspects of a "static" experiment instead of dynamic, because it's difficult to control all variables.

I am not here to scrutinize your educational background, I'm saying that there might be some plausibility that this inventor might not be willing to share, so yes, there are a lot of holes in what concept he's trying to achieve with this device.

How do trace elements react to flow and charge?

How does this device work with water flow and air?

What else is in it?

All the questions that need to be asked before jumping to a conclusion that its nonsense. There has to be something we are missing, or something they're not telling.

Just my 2 cents.

Academic to academic.
 
Tidal Gardens
It's nice comparing notes with another degreed person in this hobby.

Refreshing.

Please don't take it in anyway shape or form as disrespect, Randy. It wasn't delivered as such.

It's just about thinking outside the glass box on whether or not there is some validity to all this... like my professors told me, go in with an open mind and you will find out how much we know about how little we know.

Lots of things we think we know about the world around us that we only had made assumptions about.
 
Tidal Gardens
I guess so, bro... that's what's nice about academia. One would hypothesize one thing while another is challenged to disprove it... lol thank you, sir. Definitely entertaining for a Friday afternoon! :-)
 
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Randy Holmes-Farley said:
FWIW, Reeftoys has engaged me at the Reef Builders site and wants to provide additional explanation. :)
Click to expand...

Home Depot Online (sign up for their "Garden Club") periodically sends me emails about sales on an electrostatic water filter which sounds very similar to this and which they'd apparently really like to sell me, but must be too good to carry in their stores.

Let me know if the engagement changes your mind cuz then I might decide to pick up a sweet whole-house water filter! :rolleyes:
 
Deltec
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http://www.watertechonline.com/disinfection/effects-of-silver-in-water/

Using Silver to Preserve Water

Improperly stored water quickly grows bacteria, which may have effects ranging from unpleasant to life threatening. In the industrialized nations, our digestive tracts have grown accustomed to water sources free of harmful bacteria. As a result, most of us do not have built-in immunities to common local bacteria, which quickly reproduce in untreated stagnant reservoirs. Many a traveler to Mexico has suffered a bout of Montezuma's revenge, often introduced through seemingly harmless ice cubes made from the local water.

The ancients knew about the antibacterial properties of silver. Alexander the Great used silver urns to store water for his troops on extended sea journeys. The ancients didn't know anything about bacteria, but they knew that drinking “old water” could make them sick, unless it was stored with silver. Solid silver will not usually disinfect water, but putting some of grandma's old silverware or some silver jewelry into a storage container is a good way to prevent the growth of potentially harmful bacteria over long periods of time. The silver introduces metal ions into the water that ****** or prohibit bacterial growth. Katadyn makes a variety of commercial silver nitrate products (tradename Micropur) for preserving stored water with silver. There are several nonsilver water preservatives, such as “Aerobic 07,” for preventing bacterial growth in long-term stored containers of water. See preparedness/survival and surplus stores for these products. Silver-based water purification products are available in Europe, but these are not approved for use in the United States.

You can make your own colloidal silver solution for preserving your water if you have a colloidal silver generator (see chapter 9). The Environmental Protection Agency has set a limit for the silver introduced into drinking water by bacteriostatic silver-impregnated filters at 50 micrograms per liter (equal to 0.05 parts per million). At this level of silver concentration, several different tests have indicated that silver is only partially effective over periods of time (greater than one hour) against certain bacteria and has little effect against viruses. To obtain these concentrations, you would dilute a 5 part per million (PPM) colloidal silver solution 100:1 with the water to be preserved.
 
My colleague's thesis... how nano-particulate silver has a negative impact on bacterial populations at wastewater and water treatment facilities because of it's anti-microbial properties... not only on surface contact but rather dispersion throughout the water column.

http://diginole.lib.fsu.edu/uhm/68/
 
Nutramar Foods
ON THE CONTRARY, EVERYDAY 'STATIC ELECTRICITY' INVOLVES IMMENSE VOLTAGES.
When two insulating surfaces are adhered (or rubbed) together, two opposite regions of imbalanced charge appear. When these surfaces are later pulled away from each other, a very strong "electric field" appears between them, and this e-field can raise hair, attract lint, etc. In addition, this e-field is an example of pure voltage, or voltage without current. The strength of this e-field is incredibly large when compared to the voltage of batteries and of common electronic circuitry. It is many thousands of times stronger, sometimes hundreds of thousands of times stronger. Everyday "static electricity" involves immense voltages. The tiniest "static spark" is caused by about 1000 volts. Longer "car door sparks" and "doorknob sparks" can involve as much as 10,000 volts. For more info, see:
 
Just saying, there is some validity to this Reeftoys.com gadget...

Just because we don't understand it all doesn't make us stupid... rather, there is sooo much out there that we don't know that we haven't incorporated into reefing that we are actually falling behind the Germans and other nations in this reefing and aquatic hobby...
In the grand scheme of things, I personally would like to see continued advances in the hobby... even if it means having to try something new...
 
Deltec
Isn't it pretty debatable whether we ever caught up to the Germans? In other than hype, I mean. If not for them and the Chinese it would still be 1975 around here! ;)

I haven't had time to read the links yet but I plan to! :thumbsup:
 

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