Elegance coral not so elegant

[fordthomas11]

I've had this coral for quite a while but over time it lost its long pink flowy tentacles and it's now a darker bowl. Is it normal?

 

[brandon429]

no I agree something is wrong with it

if its doing that during the day, it could be close to death that's highly withdrawn

the second picture is the normal behavior for c jardeni (sp) have you been directly feeding it really well? I see other opened corals next to it (possibly an anem) in the blue picture, if its doing this day and night it could be going downhill

c jars are among the tougher corals to keep long term in the aquarium, like how goni's used to be Im not sure why. net has lots of details on that fact

everyone starts dipping corals when this happens, I would not, Id concentrate on A+ feeding if its feeders still come out/has mouths. at least the skeleton isn't white yet, some flesh left and that's possible to save it

 

[Scurvy]

Think we need a better picture... is there any tissue left at all?

 

[fordthomas11]

Think we need a better picture... is there any tissue left at all?

It still feeds and opens and closes with my lights day and night cycle. The green on it is still very bright. The tissue on it seems healthy. The bright picture is when I first got, I thought it was just stressed out but everything else in my tank has been doing very well

 

[brandon429]

The best thing you can do is target feed it cyclopeeze and blended frozen mysis three times a week when it's feeders are out, sustained for three months and increase water change work as well

The price for coral regeneration is protein input and stronger export than the conditions that produced the recession. Whether the other corals had the same thresholds won't matter, it commands more. Though it's work intensive, that action is good for your whole system and your feed web, whereas dipping things is haphazard unless someone has medically identified a pathogen or we're dealing with something like obvious brown jelly

 

[madweazl]

With the recession of tentacles, I'd suspect less than adequate light was being provided. This can be mitigated with direct feeding but I would think the colors should have shifted over time as well if it wasnt receiving enough (or the desired spectrum) light. Does any of that hold true?

 

[fordthomas11]

This is before and after I feed it

 

[Mal11224]

It looks pretty bad. Also looks like it was moved. Was it looking okay before it was moved? I have one and have left it in the same spot and it does well. I like to feed mine just after lights go out along with my scoly. They love it. Yours look as if it may not be getting enough light.

 

[brandon429]

nice call on lighting the pictures do look different in lighting intensity that's for sure. Seems dim currently great point. Another adjustment to try that couldn't hurt anything



can you get an iPhone par meter somehow to check intensity at the spot

 

[Syed123]

Hey. I've kept elegance corals for a while so from what I see the elegance is stressed. When my elegance corals look like that it's usually from parameter swings such as temperature, salinity etc. Or there's something bothering it like a fish. They can stay like yours for weeks sometimes.

First make sure none of your tank inhabitants are bothering it.
Test your parameters like salinity, Calcium, alkalinity and Magnesium. Make sure they are all reef level parameters. Temp too. Also I would place it somewhere where there is mild flow.

Also do you see any white stringy mucous like substance where the skeleton base meets the flesh? What lighting do you use? How long has it been like this?

 

[madweazl]

Hey. I've kept elegance corals for a while so from what I see the elegance is stressed. When my elegance corals look like that it's usually from parameter swings such as temperature, salinity etc. Or there's something bothering it like a fish. They can stay like yours for weeks sometimes.

First make sure none of your tank inhabitants are bothering it.
Test your parameters like salinity, Calcium, alkalinity and Magnesium. Make sure they are all reef level parameters. Temp too. Also I would place it somewhere where there is mild flow.

Also do you see any white stringy mucous like substance where the skeleton base meets the flesh? What lighting do you use? How long has it been like this?

Water parameters look to be adequate based on the information provided. The issue looks to be nutritionally based; either too much light or not enough to sustain health. The feedings have kept it alive but I suspect lack of intensity (and/or spectrum) have led to the current condition.

 

[fordthomas11]

I have two kessil 160s, only 2hrs of white light and 8 of blue. Water parameters are excellent. I used to have a Nano tank it was in with an A80 and it was fine. But my lighting isn't to extreme now and a much bigger tank with less swing in conditions. Temp at 79.5. Alk and Cal are stable. The I ly thing I see bother it are my emerald crabs and hermits

 

[fordthomas11]

The pics were taken at night near the end of my day night cycle right before they go off, during the day it is more open but still very dark flesh

 

[madweazl]

I have two kessil 160s, only 2hrs of white light and 8 of blue. Water parameters are excellent. I used to have a Nano tank it was in with an A80 and it was fine. But my lighting isn't to extreme now and a much bigger tank with less swing in conditions. Temp at 79.5. Alk and Cal are stable. The I ly thing I see bother it are my emerald crabs and hermits

The Kessils are the only lights? If so, is their a specific reason you have the lighting schedule you mention (two hours "white" and eight hours "blue"). The Kessils perform really well at 60% color with no need to change it; 60% color also adds enough "daylight" to appease most people in regard to looking at the tank but this is certainly different for everyone.

Edit: what do you run for intensity? Does this ramp up and down?

 

[fordthomas11]

The Kessils are the only lights? If so, is their a specific reason you have the lighting schedule you mention (two hours "white" and eight hours "blue"). The Kessils perform really well at 60% color with no need to change it; 60% color also adds enough "daylight" to appease most people in regard to looking at the tank but this is certainly different for everyone.

60% color is very white light with kessils. Blue light where your corals look best can't really be seen till atleast 30 to 40% color. And I choose that lighting schedule because I've seen multiple tanks with only dark blue or purple lighting all day with no white light and these were some of the best show tanks I've seen with years of growth

 

[madweazl]

I'm a Kessil user so I'm aware of what they look like and there is a reason I mentioned 60% specifically; it is the sweet spot for efficiency with the light. You're running lower powered light, 60% will help you get the most out of it (them). It doesn't need to "look" blue to grow well. Since you're adding white at some point during the day I'm going to assume that is so you can view the tank. If you believe 60% looks white and the last statement is true, try running 60% for the additional PAR. That brings me back to intensity; what are you running them at?

 

[fordthomas11]

At noon it gets up too 60% but for only 2hrs

 

[Dav2996]

Hey. I've kept elegance corals for a while so from what I see the elegance is stressed. When my elegance corals look like that it's usually from parameter swings such as temperature, salinity etc. Or there's something bothering it like a fish. They can stay like yours for weeks sometimes.

First make sure none of your tank inhabitants are bothering it.
Test your parameters like salinity, Calcium, alkalinity and Magnesium. Make sure they are all reef level parameters. Temp too. Also I would place it somewhere where there is mild flow.

Also do you see any white stringy mucous like substance where the skeleton base meets the flesh? What lighting do you use? How long has it been like this?

Hey mine is shot that stuff out and is shrunken not like this what do you recommend?