Emperor Angel with velvet

Brian Kim · Nov 25, 2015

iamurri33 said:
I had it mixed and running for 3 days in the 36gal and I used rodi water and mixed the 10 gal tank up 2 hours prior to adding fish

Glad to hear that, turns out some people still use tap water with prime for their reef tank. Long story short, cupramine and prime mixed together will kill all of your fishes

iamurri33 · Nov 25, 2015

I put a little bit of stress coat when switching then over.. idk if that was bad.. I figured it would help him calm down a little only used like 1/4 of what it called for

Brian Kim · Nov 25, 2015

iamurri33 said:
Should I just wait till the morning to add more copper? I heard angels arnt to good with copper idk tho just wondering

I am the one who told you about angels, well I've lost 2 coral beauties and 1 flame angel when all of my other fishes were doing well but I have also heard some people had no problem using cupramine with flame angels.
You shouldn't wait until tomorrow to raise copper to 0.5 you are dealing with marine velvet. I am assuming you don't have a test kit yet, just make sure you go 40 drops per 10gallon of water then test it as soon as you get the tester

iamurri33 · Nov 25, 2015

Ok thank you. So just take out a gallon pitcher put the drops in for the tank then mix it and dump in tank or do I need to take out maybe a 5 gall bucket then add the drops?

Brian Kim · Nov 25, 2015

iamurri33 said:
I put a little bit of stress coat when switching then over.. idk if that was bad.. I figured it would help him calm down a little only used like 1/4 of what it called for

I am not sure what stress coat you used but I would just replace the water on your QT tank now. Also, you don't need to make new water, use the water from your DT

Humblefish · Nov 25, 2015

iamurri33 said:
I put a little bit of stress coat when switching then over.. idk if that was bad.. I figured it would help him calm down a little only used like 1/4 of what it called for

Oy vey. I just checked (see link below), and Stress Coat "removes chlorine and chloramines from tap water". This creates a quagmire for reasons @Brian Kim indicated above.

http://www.apifishcare.com/product.php?id=652#.VlVKJCCrS1I

Brian Kim · Nov 25, 2015

iamurri33 said:
Ok thank you. So just take out a gallon pitcher put the drops in for the tank then mix it and dump in tank or do I need to take out maybe a 5 gall bucket then add the drops?

Are you asking me in regards to raising copper level in your tank now or when you do a water change?

iamurri33 · Nov 25, 2015

You told me to raise copper now right? That's what I was gonna do

Brian Kim · Nov 25, 2015

Humblefish said:
Oy vey. I just checked (see link below), and Stress Coat "removes chlorine and chloramines from tap water". This creates a quagmire for reasons @Brian Kim indicated above.

http://www.apifishcare.com/product.php?id=652#.VlVKJCCrS1I

Found a great article about it from our R2R owners
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/r...at-is-a-great-tool-for-removing-copper.82089/

Humblefish · Nov 25, 2015

iamurri33 said:
You told me to raise copper now right? That's what I was gonna do

The problem is you added Stress Coat, which is an ammonia reducer, and mixing that with copper has been known to turn copper toxic.

iamurri33 · Nov 25, 2015

Okay so tell me if I'm right or wrong but I should I keep the copper levels low since I have stress coat and cupramine in my tank? 24 hours the stress coat will be gone then I can add more cupramine right? Should I put carbon to take out the cupramine? I didn't know them both together were toxix

Brian Kim · Nov 25, 2015

iamurri33 said:
You told me to raise copper now right? That's what I was gonna do

It doesn't matter, you should replace that water immediately, just pick up 2 5 gallon bucket and get water from your DT, drop 20 drops on each bucket and then replace all the water in your 10 gallon QT

iamurri33 · Nov 25, 2015

Okay j will do that thank you sorry about the confusion lol

Humblefish · Nov 25, 2015

Brian Kim said:
Found a great article about it from our R2R owners
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/r...at-is-a-great-tool-for-removing-copper.82089/

If that is true - that Stress Coat removes copper - then who knows what the Cu level is in the QT it was added to.

Brian Kim · Nov 25, 2015

iamurri33 said:
Okay j will do that thank you sorry about the confusion lol

You are welcome, also make sure you remove carbon filter from your aquaclear hob if you haven't done so yet.

Brian Kim · Nov 25, 2015

Humblefish said:
If that is true - that Stress Coat removes copper - then who knows what the Cu level is in the QT it was added to.

LOL True......also it will not only remove copper but combined with cuprimane it becomes toxic.

Humblefish · Nov 25, 2015

Brian Kim said:
not only remove copper but combine with cuprimane it becomes toxic.

That's what I'm thinking: If it breaks down copper bonding, like ammonia detoxifiers do, it will release excessive free copper i.e. making copper reach toxic levels.

To the OP: How many of the QTs did you use Stress Coat in?

iamurri33 · Nov 25, 2015

Little bit in both tanks. I am taking 10 gal out of the 36 gal today and 5 in the 10 gal all I have water for riggt now. My disply had stress coat in it too when I was trying to catch them..so had to make new water