Engineer goby flashing

Radman73 · Feb 1, 2018

Goby is still struggling. Saw some additional flashing Tuesday and he appears to have some swim bladder issues as well. He frequently swims tail high but at times he's able to chill on the bottom as well. He's also very weak as when I turned on a 240GPH power head he again would have been sucked into it had I not turned it off.

I'm feeding him food with metroplex and kanaplex mixed in. No distended belly. No apparent bacteria infection. I do believe that he's breathing heavily.

Prepping a FW dip today to see if anything comes off of him. Copper Power has been maintained at at least 2.5ppm for over a week.

Radman73 · Feb 1, 2018

Ironically no issues with swimming in the FW dip. Right back to tail up once back in the QT tank...

Solid 5 minute FW dip and it doesn't appear as though anything came off of him so I'm guessing whatever his issue it isn't flukes.

I've dosed furan-2. So that's metroplex and kanaplex via food and furan-2 in the water. Should I stop the medicated food and dose the water with metro and kanaplex?

Humblefish · Feb 1, 2018

Radman73 said:
I've dosed furan-2. So that's metroplex and kanaplex via food and furan-2 in the water. Should I stop the medicated food and dose the water with metro and kanaplex?

Unless you are seeing active signs of a bacterial infection, I would treat with copper only. That may be too many meds all at once.

Is he still eating? Also, could you transfer him to a clean/sterile (non-medicated) QT after 10 full days in copper?

Radman73 · Feb 1, 2018

Humblefish said:
Unless you are seeing active signs of a bacterial infection, I would treat with copper only. That may be too many meds all at once.

Is he still eating? Also, could you transfer him to a clean/sterile (non-medicated) QT after 10 full days in copper?

Yep, still eating. Yes, I can transfer him to another tank. Just need to set it up and get salinity and temp right. He's been in copper for 14 days as of today. But I saw flashing, for the first time since introducing copper, 2 days ago.

Radman73 · Feb 1, 2018

Water and salt in sterile QT tank. Probably take 30-60 minutes for salt to mix and temp to come up.

Humblefish · Feb 1, 2018

Radman73 said:
Yep, still eating. Yes, I can transfer him to another tank. Just need to set it up and get salinity and temp right. He's been in copper for 14 days as of today. But I saw flashing, for the first time since introducing copper, 2 days ago.

Radman73 said:
Water and salt in sterile QT tank. Probably take 30-60 minutes for salt to mix and temp to come up.

Just make sure it is at least 10 feet away from the treatment tank and reuse nothing (from the treatment tank) to set it up. All new tank, equipment, water, etc.

Radman73 · Feb 1, 2018

Humblefish said:
Just make sure it is at least 10 feet away from the treatment tank and reuse nothing (from the treatment tank) to set it up. All new tank, equipment, water, etc.

Best I can do right now is 6ft away but behind a door in a closet. I have equipment for 3 QT's so no worry of anything being reused.

Humblefish · Feb 1, 2018

Radman73 said:
Best I can do right now is 6ft away but behind a door in a closet. I have equipment for 3 QT's so no worry of anything being reused.

Shut off all pumps prior to transferring, and break down QT#1 immediately after transferring. Move everything away from QT#2.

Radman73 · Feb 1, 2018

Humblefish said:
Shut off all pumps prior to transferring, and break down QT#1 immediately after transferring. Move everything away from QT#2.

Done. We'll see how it goes.

Radman73 · Feb 1, 2018

Should I leave the tank unmedicated? He's doing the occasional barrel roll.

Humblefish · Feb 1, 2018

Radman73 said:
He's been in copper for 14 days as of today.

^^ Full therapeutic copper for 14 days, right??

Radman73 · Feb 2, 2018

Humblefish said:
^^ Full therapeutic copper for 14 days, right??

Yes.

Humblefish · Feb 2, 2018

Radman73 said:
Yes.

Then he should be clear of ich/velvet; how is he looking today?

Radman73 · Feb 2, 2018

Humblefish said:
Then he should be clear of ich/velvet; how is he looking today?

Still looking rough. Generally is tail up and often just lets the current take him wherever before swimming a little bit. Steal eating well though, so there is that.

I see him rubbing the side of his head on the glass too.

Humblefish · Feb 2, 2018

Radman73 said:
I see him rubbing the side of his head on the glass too.

He might have (prazi resistant) flukes. Do you think he could handle a 5 min FW dip to check? Otherwise, you could just drop SG to 1.009 for 5 days to eliminate any remaining flukes.

Radman73 · Feb 2, 2018

Humblefish said:
He might have (prazi resistant) flukes. Do you think he could handle a 5 min FW dip to check? Otherwise, you could just drop SG to 1.009 for 5 days to eliminate any remaining flukes.

Did a 5 minute FW dip yesterday with nothing coming off.

Humblefish · Feb 2, 2018

Radman73 said:
Did a 5 minute FW dip yesterday with nothing coming off.

I would just let it ride then and see what happens. So long as he continues to eat, that's a good sign. Maybe turn the flow down in case he is just weak.

Are you soaking vitamins and/or probiotics in his food? https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/vitamins-herbal-remedies.304287/

You can also dose Vitamin C directly into the water.

Radman73 · Feb 2, 2018

I generally soak in selcon first.

Radman73 · Feb 4, 2018

Quick update.

Goby is still alive. Still struggling to keep its tail down. It is funny as at times it can sit perfectly still and stay level but eventually the tail will slowly drift up. I don't see as many barrel rolls as I did when I first transferred it over. Still eats very well. Plan is to continue soaking food with selcon and just give it time and see if it improves.

Radman73 · Feb 7, 2018

Well, it seems to be getting better. Staying level much more frequently now though it still goes tail high sometimes. Really hard to figure out what's wrong. Still feeding multiple times a day to try and get its strength up.