Equipment more or Less?

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my skimmer is reef octopus space saver, so the pump for the skimmer is internal.
next to my sump i bought a 10 gal tank from petco on one of their sales $1 per gallon, then sat it right next to the sump.
My tank is 150 though so i had a small amount of space there to put it. You could just do a 5 gal jug to.
I did not have an ato setup for a long time and it was manageable but you really have to keep an eye on the water level for the skimmer to skim properly.
 
my skimmer is reef octopus space saver, so the pump for the skimmer is internal.
next to my sump i bought a 10 gal tank from petco on one of their sales $1 per gallon, then sat it right next to the sump.
My tank is 150 though so i had a small amount of space there to put it. You could just do a 5 gal jug to.
I did not have an ato setup for a long time and it was manageable but you really have to keep an eye on the water level for the skimmer to skim properly.


Stupid question I need a pump to pump into the sump and a valve for it doesn't over flow
 
No. The water from the DT (display tank) simply flows down to the sump by passing through/into an overflow. You need a pump to pump the water back up to the DT. Now, do you have an internal overflow or external (HOB) overflow?
 
No no I get that but if you have an extra tank for the ATO how does that get back in the tank. Do you have it hooked up to the tank or have it go into the sumo
 
The best thing that a controller is vital for is heater control. I would never rely on the cheap heaters to not get stuck in the on position and roast your tank and pretty much kill everything in it. There are other benefits, like controlling lights, turning off pumps and skimmers during feed mode. They can pretty much do anything. A basic reef keeper lite will cost you 120 bucks and will get you going.
 
All about husbandry. We're not taking care of fish and coral if you really think about it. We're taking care of water and good looking animals are just a bonus!Just MO
 
No no I get that but if you have an extra tank for the ATO how does that get back in the tank. Do you have it hooked up to the tank or have it go into the sumo

An ATO requires four things:
1. Some type of means to detect water level typically in your sump.....most common are float switches
2. Small pump to pump water from your freshwater reservoir to the sump/DT
3. A reservoir to hold RO/DI water
4. Tubing.

I personally have AquaHub Premium kit with a Tom's Aqualifer pump and a DIY Home-made reservoir made from a 5 gallon bucket and 5 gallon water jugs.






 
Since you said new:
You must purify tap water before using, with reverse osmosis. Tap water is poison for reef tank.
Try to find an experienced person in your home town, you can learn a lot that way.
 
I invested in a few 35 gal containers that I make my RO water in. Hooked up my RO Setup (5 stage) and have it make 35 gals as I need it.
Thats another thing you can make an automated process if you plan it. I dont have my water changes automated.
 
Hey there: I noticed the containers that you are using for Alk and CA. What are they and could I use them for Magnesium and or No3:Po4-X solution as well ??



There are a couple different styles, but to the best of my knowledge, they are all peristaltic pumps. I'm using two BRS 1.1 ml/min pumps to dose both my alkalinity and calcium solutions.

202317-BRS-Two-Part-Doser-Dosing-Pump-c_1.jpg

EDIT TO ADD:

Here is a picture of my actual pumps and the two containers of alk and calc solution.

 
Do you have enough liverock? You should check out the video series on you tube Brs TV and maybe even Mr.salwater tank Tv? The first one is better imo but both explain a lot about the hobby and equipment. Can be very helpful for a beginner and also easier to learn when you can visualize it.
Another piece of "required" equipment is a refractometer.

https://www.google.com/search?ie=UT...rce=android-browser&q=Brs+Tv#q=Brs+Tv&tbm=vid

http://www.mrsaltwatertank.com/mr-saltwater-tank-tv/



Thank you I'll take a look
 
Hey there: I noticed the containers that you are using for Alk and CA. What are they and could I use them for Magnesium and or No3:po4-X solution as well ??

They are sold as cereal containers and I purchased them in WalMart. I have the gallon size for my alk and calc and maybe 2 1/2 gallon size for the ATO reservoir for my nano tank. I like them because the large opening makes refilling them very easy.

 
The only way I learnt was to read,read, watch lots of videos and read more. Sooner or later it all starts to click and come together. I have only a 29 gal. nano with only a small skimmer,heater,pump,and top off tank ( 5 Gal. bucket ). Been up and running for 3 years with very little trouble with 4 to 5 gal. water changes weekly and Kalk in top off water.
 
I would just read up on testing and make sure you know about the nitrogen cycle first before you go too gunghoe on everything. I would start out with a fish only tank until you get the grand scheme of things and then go reef. I would look at getting a auto top off first and a rodi system so you don't have to make so many trips to the lfs. In the long run you are probably going to get controllers and automated stuff so you can sit back and enjoy the tank more instead of fiddling with it so much. Pm if you have any questions, good luck!
 
check out brs tv on you tube they are doing a whole build and going through almost every step of setting up a tank, i wonder if i could link my list of Favorited web pages that pretty much go in order of zero knowledge of aquariums to things i still don't quit comprehend
 
As others have suggested research setting up a new saltwater tank on several sites. Many nice videos on youtube. Then as you set up ask the questions the videos don't cover on the forum and members will be able to steer you in the right direction. To give you a complete run through would take pages of details. The basics, tank, rodi water, lighting-appropriate for animals you place in the tank, heater-controller as backup to prevent overheating, filters-dependent on stocking, sump-always a good addition to place skimmer, heater, filtering material, refusium,etc. For large tanks or tanks that lose a lot of water an ATO-can be as simple as a container dripping into the sump or floats, etc bringing in a pump adding water to the sump as required. Kalk can be added to ATO reservoir instead of using a dosing pump. The main rule is don't get into a rush. Each stage of set-up takes time before adding livestock. I'm one of those who don't have a controller. Several timers control my lighting. I have a basic ATO running from float switches. Everything else I manually control and it really takes very little of my time to run a 210g. Paying daily attention to the tank can replace a lot of the uses for a controller. Enjoy the tank.
 
Really depends on what you want. No, you don't need all the fancy equipment if you aren't planning on raising some of the more sensitive fish/corals. Most of them are time savers, you can do without but you will have to spend more time on your tank. I have a 65 gallon with 5gallon skimmer/sump combo, been doing very well for over a decade. Before that was a 55gl with same system. No auto-top off, no refugium, no dosers/controllers, just the sump and 4 wavemakers for water movement. Regular 7-10% water changes (weekly), kalwasser drip (manual) mixed up with some vinegar added for carbon source. Do I get some algae? Sure, cyano brushes off, do get a small clump of hair algae once in awhile (kinda weird, pops up 3-4 times a year, usually in a different spot, clean off with toothbrush, don't see it again for a few months). I have some livestock that eats algae (lawnmower blenny, yellow tang) but they don't eat it all and a regular clean-up crew (large cerinths, 4-5 Astrea, brittle star, banded star, various hermits). But like I said, theres a time trade-off. I've had a reef tank for almost 20 years now and the couple of times I neglected my tank early on, it became an algae garden. Didn't lose any livestock because of it, just looked bad. After spending the better part of a day a few times removing live rock and livestock, cleaning off live rock in old water, re-setting up tank you learn to take better care of it, LOL. BUT ... you gotta do your research as to what animals you can get, stay away from anything that is super-sensitive to nitrates/phosphates. I have daisy coral, some acans, three different color zooanthids, Xenia, Green Star Polyps, frogspawn, plate coral, toadstool, a hairy mushroom and many regular red and green mushrooms (see sig). Other than the green/brown mushrooms, just a small colony of all the rest. Well, frogspawn is huge, going to have to frag that soon. PJ cardinal and tang, I've had both going on 10 years now. And most of those things are easy to raise and don't need anything special equipment-wise. Take your time (number ONE rule), read everything you can, start with a very, very small biological load, use quality food so your not tempted to over feed and slowly build (like 1-2 years), then you can decide if you want to spend the time or the money (what am I saying, your going to spend the money, just how much at once, LOL!). As you become more comfortable, you can decide if you want to buy some of the other equipment, to save you time or to properly take care of the special coral you fell in love with at the LFS. :-)
 

IF YOU HAD TO TAKE A REEFING EXAM, WOULD YOU PASS?

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  • Not yet, but I have one that I want to buy in mind!

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