Eshopps Eclipes S New Internal Overflow Series From Eshopps

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A little history before the review...
I've been out of the hobby for nearly 3 years now. It was time for a return. Circumstances have caused changes in life that will not allow me to make my come back on the grand gallon scale I would like, however I'm happy with the little 20 Long drilled I've been cycling for the past one and one half month.
I am the type that is set in my ways and the only system I would set up had to be drilled for an overflow and the return. I've ran weir boxes as well as tubed overflow boxes and even though those set-ups do their job, they are not what I like when it comes to the appearance of my aquariums.
I was on the fence about purchasing a manufactured internal overflow, having one built to my specifications or settling for a Eshopps Nano Overflow. I had an internal nano box with a Spanish sounding name in the cart on a well known manufacturer's site but hadn't committed to the purchase because I'd used one before and frankly, I was happy with it at all.
One last search, one last look at over the glass boxes and I stumbled on the Eclipse series internal.


I've used Eshopps products all of my reefing life and was excited to see that they had finally put out an overflow system designed for drilled aquariums.
This system had many selling points jumping out at me as I read the page on the site which I'd discovered it.
  • Price. As always Eshopps makes quality affordable. Everything I needed for $99.99
  • Internal box measures 6" x 1.25" x 6". The 1.5" bulk-head is included
  • External box "6 x 3" x 6" and is drilled for two 1" bulk-heads which are included. It also has a lid.
  • The kit also includes the 60mm diamond coated bit needed to drill and a nice acrylic hole template.
I was sold. I ordered the kit and considering I'm lazy, I also added on The Eshopps Pro Valve kit to save myself a trip to the home improvement store.
The valve kit consists of two 1" TrueUnion ball valves, two 1" schedule 40 elbows and one 1" TrueUnion connection. It retails for $59.99 and is molded in grey. I later discovered I really would not have saved much had I purchased the same items at a home improvement store.

The kit arrived packed safely and securely. All of the contents were present. Even though I'd put in a very long day at work, I set up to drill. I was to excited not to. If you're reading this and have never drilled a glass aquarium before, do not be intimidated by the thought of doing so and keep you from purchasing kits such as this. There are many informative sites on-line and many videos demonstrating the correct way to accomplish installing bulk-heads in glass. For example, Eshopps has a demonstration video on YouTube. There are a few simple rules to follow, i.e. make sure the glass isn't tempered, etc.
I had the kit installed within an hours time.

As I stated before the system has been running for 6 weeks. I've had time to become familiar with this over-flow. In the video I discuss what I like and what I don't like about this system. I'll list them here as well.

Pros
  • Price
  • Quality built product
  • Slim design
  • Dual drains make it quiet when pro kit is utilized to control air flow into drains
  • Lid on external box helps noise reduction
  • The template is the same height and width as the internal box and has an directional arrow routed into it. Hole placement is a no brainer.
  • Kit includes everything needed for installation except a cordless drill and aquarium.
  • Complete set of drilling instructions and warnings are printed within the installation pamphlet.

Cons
I really wouldn't consider what I feel is wrong as "cons" but more like details in the design I would change.
  1. The skimming slots routed into the internal box are 2" long.* This puts the water line in the tank at least 2" below the rim. I like water to the rim personally so this was modified. I cut a dam out of the acrylic template and glued it inside the internal box, over the slots. I would like to see Eshopps change from the slots to a raised cap.
  2. The red 1" PVC inserted into one drain bulk-head inside of the external box is described as a saftey feature. I'm sure this is true on the Eshopps Eclipse L (large) which has 3 1" drains and I assume be tuned similar to a Bean Animal set up. However on the M (medium) and S (small) models there are but two 1" drains. Both drains are needed to make this system as quiet as possible, one drain valve choked down and the other wide open, so I see some confusion and frustration arising when users attempt to quiet the overflow simply with a single drain valve. So my point is that I completely understand the theory of air intake into the drain but with a single ball valve that is nearly impossible. Some water must rise above the red PVC and drain or the system sounds like a running river.
  3. Finally, one last issue concerning the internal box. (I feel that a raised lid would alleviate this issue as well as that of the the low water line.) I will run an MP10 in this tank and I'll run it mainly in Nutrient Transport mode. When the mode changes to pulse and creates visible waves, the water sloshes into the box and is quite loud. Now would this occur if I had not modified the box by covering the slots? I don't know and frankly I don't care to find out. To me the noisy sloshing is an easy fix compared to the visually unacceptable low water line. Especially considering this set up is a mere 12" deep to begin with.
In closing I'd like to state that I am happy with this system. It serves it's function well and was affordable. I don't mind that I've had to make a couple small modifications to bend the product to my exact liking, I've had to do that with most every other piece of reef equipment I've ever purchased, no matter the manufacturer. If I'm ever to set up another system, I'd purchase this overflow kit again. Overall, I'd give it 7 stars out of 10.


* In the video I claim the slots in the internal box to be routed at 3" inches long. My bad, I should've measured them before stating that instead of after uploading the video.




 
Thanks for your review. I was having trouble finding information about these new overflows.
 
It's actually a nice set up. Tune it like a Durso and it's totally quiet.
 
If you was to have the top of the inside box at the top of the rim with the water going through the wiers as intended wouldn't that make the water line be hidden by rim?.
Looking to buy one myself.
 
I'd recommend measuring the hole location out well before securing the included template. If you just butt the template up to the rim, the hole will end up low like mine. If I had it to do over again I would modify the template by trimming at least 3/4" off the height.
If your cutting a hole in a tank wide enough to cut from the inside this wouldn't be a problem as the rim is narrower and the template would sit higher, by about 3/4".
I think its well worth the cost. Dead quiet and simple to tune.
 
So to recap if i was to trim the template a Little you think i would get the water line hidden by the rim? Its for a 40 breeder which has a wider rim then a 20 long..Hate to waste money and not be happy in end.
 
Yeah I do. If my bulkhead was just a mere 3/4" higher the water line would be just barely above the rim looking at the tank from outside in.
 
And not to mention a 40B is 18" wide. My drill is short enough, even with the saw attached, I could cut the hole from inside out. The molded interior edge of the rim is 1/2 the width of the exterior so I believe securing the template (which is the exact same size as the internal OF box) butt flush internal would put the hole exactly where it needed to be.
And of course flow rate plays a role in water hieght. I run my OF around 3/4 max.
 
I just set this same set up on my 55g tank and both the emergency and main line is leaking. Does anyone else having this same issue and if so please advise me how you have corrected this situation.

Thank you in advance
 
I have the Eclipse L. My only complaints are the slots in the wier are cut too long. Just like the OP review stated it makes the water level on the lower side, mine is just ro the bottom of my plastic trim. .5-1" slots would be much better. Lastly the directions included and Eshopps install video has you install the gaskets wrong. I followed the order of bulkhead and gasket install are directed and had 2 large leaks from between the box and back glass. Moving the gasket from inside back box to outside fixed all leaks. It needs to go wier, gasket, glass, gasket, box and nut. I set mine up with a bean animal and the drain is dead silent.
 
Great review :) I use the Eclipse S as well. I was fortunate enough to know about the drilling trick before hand. On rimmed tanks you have to put the template on the inside of the tank, all the way up to the rim as to not have a visible waterline below your trim. :D I have mine setup herbie style, and another trick i'll throw out there is to replace the emergency line that comes with it for one slightly taller. If you get the water line just above the nut opening, it makes the unit DEAD silent :)
 

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