ESV B-Ionic Seawater Systems mix is it that great???????

toyencounters · Aug 26, 2011

So I bought a 200 gallon mix box of ESV B-Ionic Seawater System mix that everyone talked so good about not to long ago on R2R! Today I prepared a 5 gallon bucket to try it out I followed very carefully mix batch chart instructions included in the box. I am so glad I tested the new batch water first or I would have probably of shocked about 10K of livestock!! I tested the new batch twice with Salifert. The salt was right on the money 1025 Alk 9.6 mag 1380 that was ok and calcium was 500. I am going to call ESV on monday and see whats going on any ideas????

toyencounters · Aug 26, 2011

By the way my parameters are very stable at 9.1 DKH, Cal 420,Mag 1410!

toyencounters · Aug 26, 2011

m and m · Aug 26, 2011

5G wouldn't of come close to shocking your tank. Also those parameters seem fine to me. I hate chasing Ideal parameters I like to fine out what my salt puts my lvl and go from there.

caudill187 · Aug 27, 2011

Looks better than my salt.....

Nomadic1 · Aug 27, 2011

That's not THAT big of a difference to shock, much less kill, the livestock.

subielover · Aug 27, 2011

So what is the problem?

toyencounters · Aug 27, 2011

It is when you have a 34 gallon tank! The problem is having instant spikes!

xxbrianxx · Aug 27, 2011

wow you're really careful with your livestock haha, good for you. I honestly don't think that's that big of a difference either...especially when you're only doing a partial water change. But to each his own, I'm sure that's why all your livestock is so healthy haha

Nuocmam · Aug 27, 2011

Doesn't sound bad IMO.

Troylee · Aug 27, 2011

Not sure what your saying but those numbers are fine.... You could change 100 percent of your water and not have a problem.... From my exp what will cause you problems is big dealing little things like that and messing with the tank daily leads to disaster...

Acro76 · Aug 27, 2011

I don't see the problem either. I think you are expecting the salt to mix up precisely to your tank parameters? That is never going to happen. There is more to a salt mix than just these numbers. There is also a margin of error with hobbyist grade test kits. With your water change you'd only be making a very small percentage change in your alk, mag, and calcium and the corals are not sensitive enough to even notice such a small change. Though they definitely notice the chemicals contained in 1 part salts that prevent them from reacting and turning into an undissolved brick.

We use 100% new ESV at some trade shows and all the corals open up and the water stays crystal clear, even for 3 day shows. You couldn't do this with any one part mix.

CherryCorals · Aug 27, 2011

I'm confused, it all looks freakin perfect.

mjaustin22 · Aug 27, 2011

I use this salt and get around the same numbers and think they're great.

toyencounters · Aug 27, 2011

500 calcium seems very high when my tank is stable at 420 on an everyday basis including dkh at 9.1!

Paul_N · Aug 27, 2011

I ran my calcium at 480-500 all the time. You shouldn't have ANY issues at all with doing a water change with the new salt mix and parameters.

reefkoi · Aug 27, 2011

Acro76 said:
I don't see the problem either. I think you are expecting the salt to mix up precisely to your tank parameters? That is never going to happen. There is more to a salt mix than just these numbers. There is also a margin of error with hobbyist grade test kits. With your water change you'd only be making a very small percentage change in your alk, mag, and calcium and the corals are not sensitive enough to even notice such a small change. Though they definitely notice the chemicals contained in 1 part salts that prevent them from reacting and turning into an undissolved brick.

We use 100% new ESV at some trade shows and all the corals open up and the water stays crystal clear, even for 3 day shows. You couldn't do this with any one part mix.

I second this