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Have anybody ever tried this product? What's yall thoughts?

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Here is what I was able to gather for ya...

Mad hatters reef did a review on this product a little while back


As for ingredients and this is coming straight from the company...

From Bob Stark...

"Thanks for using our products and your interest in the Transition Elements! We have found that the transition elements iron, manganese, and zinc deplete very rapidly in closed reef aquaria even when being supplemented by products containing these elements such as our salt mix and B-ionic Calcium Buffer. As such, we recommend using the products in addition to our other products. Our Transition Elements Plus incorporates carbon dosing (citric acid and vitamin C) and is recommended for systems with nitrate levels over 5 ppm. For systems running with nitrate levels below 5 ppm, or are currently using another form of carbon dosing, we recommend our standard Transition Elements product which does not provide carbon dosing. Hope that helps!

Regards,

Bob Stark
ESV Aquarium Products Inc."


Hope this all helps!
 
Just started dosing the transition elements, not the plus, as my NO3 is bottomed out. don’t have any thoughts on it yet, in fact I’m trying to do some research myself which is how I found this post. :)

my LFS loves the stuff...
 
Just started dosing the transition elements, not the plus, as my NO3 is bottomed out. don’t have any thoughts on it yet, in fact I’m trying to do some research myself which is how I found this post. :)

my LFS loves the stuff...
Yea I'm debating should I give this a try
 
Yea I'm debating should I give this a try
What salt are you using? I use Reef Crystals and have been dosing ESV for 2 days now. Just pulled a water sample and am sending to Triton for lab work. I’ll let you know the results on the trace elements that ESV replaces...
 
What salt are you using? I use Reef Crystals and have been dosing ESV for 2 days now. Just pulled a water sample and am sending to Triton for lab work. I’ll let you know the results on the trace elements that ESV replaces...
What were your results/conclusions?
 
FWIW, I would challenge Bob Stark's assertion quoted above that zinc depletes rapidly. I never dosed any, and foods and 1% daily water changes kept it spot on based on a Triton ICP test.
 
FWIW, I would challenge Bob Stark's assertion quoted above that zinc depletes rapidly. I never dosed any, and foods and 1% daily water changes kept it spot on based on a Triton ICP test.
Randy, having recently read "I Contain Multitudes" by Ed Yong, I wanted to get your take on microbial diversity in home reef aquariums and if you know of any active studies or recent publications that could be of use for the "advanced" reefers out there. I understand it's a little outside of inorganic chemistry but I still suspect you're better read on the landscape than I am.

It seems like Aquabiomics is a pioneer here...

We can about this elsewhere if you want.
 
FWIW, I would challenge Bob Stark's assertion quoted above that zinc depletes rapidly. I never dosed any, and foods and 1% daily water changes kept it spot on based on a Triton ICP test.
How many gallon tank did you do the 1% water change on?
 
Randy, having recently read "I Contain Multitudes" by Ed Yong, I wanted to get your take on microbial diversity in home reef aquariums and if you know of any active studies or recent publications that could be of use for the "advanced" reefers out there. I understand it's a little outside of inorganic chemistry but I still suspect you're better read on the landscape than I am.

It seems like Aquabiomics is a pioneer here...

We can about this elsewhere if you want.

Sorry, missed this.

There are a number of threads on aquabiomics testing, but I'm not sure I'd do it unless I was trying to diagnose a problem of some sort (like a coral disease).
 
FWIW, I would challenge Bob Stark's assertion quoted above that zinc depletes rapidly. I never dosed any, and foods and 1% daily water changes kept it spot on based on a Triton ICP test.
I'm a little confused by your comments. Wasn't your system shutdown before Triton came along? If I recall your system was light in stony corals especially acros.

I'm not saying acros are taking up the zinc more than other corals, but it could also be depletion from certain bacteria species and not the actual corals at all.

Most zinc tests come back at zero unless people are dosing it................ as it seems to be on of those metals that are always below detection levels.

I bought a bottle of Transition elements but haven't tested as of yet so I'm just looking for info here.
 
I'm a little confused by your comments. Wasn't your system shutdown before Triton came along? If I recall your system was light in stony corals especially acros.

I'm not saying acros are taking up the zinc more than other corals, but it could also be depletion from certain bacteria species and not the actual corals at all.

Most zinc tests come back at zero unless people are dosing it................ as it seems to be on of those metals that are always below detection levels.

I bought a bottle of Transition elements but haven't tested as of yet so I'm just looking for info here.

My system was not shut down before Triton. I wrote an article on it when I tested my tank:


I don’t think we have a strong understanding of which organisms use the most zinc. There is quite a bit in organism tissue and in foods.
 
My system was not shut down before Triton. I wrote an article on it when I tested my tank:


I don’t think we have a strong understanding of which organisms use the most zinc. There is quite a bit in organism tissue and in foods.
Thanks for the update!
 
Thread got me curious to see how Zinc looked over time. I do not know what happened on 5/27/2022 when it spiked to 138 so maybe that is a ICP test anomaly. Started high though and went down over time.

All for reef is my primary control for alkalinity, calcium, and mg along with its other stuff. I also dose a couple ml of standard transition elements for no other reason that I had it and it isn't hurting anything.


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