Euphyllia not feeling ok / not opening fully ?

[Katze]

Hi everyone
I've bought an euphyllia about 2-3 weeks ago in that time line it was looking pretty good BUT
Last day I've done a waterchange (usual 10%) after that I measured a phosphate of 0.2-0.18 (+dosed 2,5 ml of nopox that day) the week before that one it was only 0.05-0.02
Also I'm not sure but the flow may not be the best had to move it 1x / week in it's current position, where was looking the best so far.
The question what causes this kind of closing up. And I need help resolving this. +everything looks nice other than this coral
current parameters:
Sal.: 1.025-1.026
PO4: 0.2
NO3: 40-30

Light setting: Maxspect ethereal
cool white: ~80%
blue: 90%
green: 30%
red: 30%
warm white: 30%
+ infos
-I did have 2 zoa polyps pop
-I did move my ricordea out of it's hospital container and is relatively close to the euphyllia
-I had to remove a calcinus elegans, since they harassed my zoas

Pictures:
-flow off (notice the white thing at it's mouth, maybe coral slime from stress ?)

flow on

 

[Reeflix]

is it a torch? if so they can be picky and die pretty easily. how much flow is it getting? are the polyps gently swaying?

 

[Reeflix]

well also the zoa palytoxins could of made it mad. are there any other corals in the tank?

 

[Katze]

is it a torch? if so they can be picky and die pretty easily. how much flow is it getting? are the polyps gently swaying?

well also the zoa palytoxins could of made it mad. are there any other corals in the tank?

Well it's tentacles are "locked" to one side (just like in the picture) So they are definetely not gently swaying.
In terms of corals: a small forest of tree corals (nephthea), 2 discosomas a rhodactis, 2 kinds of zoas and a gorgonian they are all looking great.
And I don't have any idea on what kind of is it.

 

[Reeflix]

looks like a torch, very finicky the other corals you have dont seem too picky so my best guess is the palytoxin. might want to move it again (not now!) once its happy. for the palytoxin do a bigger water change, if its not the toxin it might just be mad that you moved it

 

[Katze]

looks like a torch, very finicky the other corals you have dont seem too picky so my best guess is the palytoxin. might want to move it again (not now!) once its happy. for the palytoxin do a bigger water change, if its not the toxin it might just be mad that you moved it

If it is a torch coral... since the 1st day I've always seen it's mouth should I be worried?
+ those 2 polyps were very small like 2mms or so

 

[Reeflix]

well i have a hammer (if you are in love with euphyllia get one of those, they are super hardy) and i have seen its mouth once but if you are seeing it constantly then not good.

 

[Reeflix]

how much did you buy it for? you might just want to take it back for a store credit and get a hammer... if you solve this problem in a month it will have another

 

[Reeflix]

they are very picky

 

[rsoethe]

Might want to attempt to give it a Cipro bath. It looks very sick. KFC has a proven process that’s worth checking out.

 

[Katze]

well i have a hammer (if you are in love with euphyllia get one of those, they are super hardy) and i have seen its mouth once but if you are seeing it constantly then not good.

how much did you buy it for? you might just want to take it back for a store credit and get a hammer... if you solve this problem in a month it will have another

16$, I'm open for any idea.

 

[Katze]

Might want to attempt to give it a Cipro bath. It looks very sick. KFC has a proven process that’s worth checking out.

So you think it's a disease of some sort ? What's a cipro bath ? May I have a link or something ?

 

[Reeflix]

yeah, probably more problems that its worth. if you buy all they stuff to help it it might just die in a year and you spent 100 bucks on trying to heal a 16 dollar coral that might just die

16$, I'm open for any idea.

 

[Reeflix]

i love torchs but i dont touch em

 

[Reeflix]

seeing how cheap it was just forget it. not really worth it

 

[Katze]

seeing how cheap it was just forget it. not really worth it

well compared to my financing for corals it is expensive +my 2nd most expensive coral that's why I am so anxious to help it

 

[Reeflix]

oh ok... hmmm. does you store take back corals?

 

[Reeflix]

if they do see if they will take it back for a credit and wait till the palytoxin in your tank is gone

 

[Katze]

oh ok... hmmm. does you store take back corals?

they do but I already had to send back a hermit. And that's still losing a bit of money I could try to sell it for my other lfs if I lose less money.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hi everyone
I've bought an euphyllia about 2-3 weeks ago in that time line it was looking pretty good BUT
Last day I've done a waterchange (usual 10%) after that I measured a phosphate of 0.2-0.18 (+dosed 2,5 ml of nopox that day) the week before that one it was only 0.05-0.02
Also I'm not sure but the flow may not be the best had to move it 1x / week in it's current position, where was looking the best so far.
The question what causes this kind of closing up. And I need help resolving this. +everything looks nice other than this coral
current parameters:
Sal.: 1.025-1.026
PO4: 0.2
NO3: 40-30

Light setting: Maxspect ethereal
cool white: ~80%
blue: 90%
green: 30%
red: 30%
warm white: 30%
+ infos
-I did have 2 zoa polyps pop
-I did move my ricordea out of it's hospital container and is relatively close to the euphyllia
-I had to remove a calcinus elegans, since they harassed my zoas

Pictures:
-flow off (notice the white thing at it's mouth, maybe coral slime from stress ?)

flow on

No cipro best left to humans and an alternative- Not solution. First issue I see is location- They are best at upper half of tank where they receive medium light and water flow. Too much flow and they can get stressed and even tear away from skeleton. Too little flow and they shrink.
Medium light necessary for their energy source known as Zooxanthellae but too much light , they expel this zooxanthellae which many think its pooping.
Your Phosphate is high which is one of the culprits- best range .04- .08
Calcium should be no less than 380 for their skeletal health
Nitrate no higher than 25 - yours a bit high

This IS NOT ZOA palytoxins and mainly water quality.

For lights adjust to this and see if torch responds

cool white: ~60
blue: 90%
green: 10
red: 15
warm white: 20%

This is Some of my euphyllia: