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The hard part is, most people are not familiar with the finer areas of science. Most look at the hobby like a simple scenario. I add food, it produces waste, I add something else to deal with that, and it's done. But like the article points out, it's actually, I add food, a ton of stuff happens, it produces waste, tons of other stuff happens, I add something else to deal with the waste, a ton of other stuff happens, and it's done. But just because we don't see things, aren't aware of them, or haven't given them thought, doesn't mean we're correct in our assumptions.
The same goes for compounds being utilized in our tanks. In the past I've heard, 'carbon dosing is a sham', 'carbon dosing isn't natural', 'those elements are not naturally in saltwater', 'those compounds aren't used by corals', 'those bacteria aren't naturally in a marine environment'... etc... The list could go on forever about what people think, but those people haven't even given thought to the cascades of other effects in the water. Heck, just look at all the people who use Bayer as a dip, or even use certain things in their tank that have never been used before. The only thing they pay attention to? Whether or not they 'see negative effects'. That's another thing I think is laughable, the argument of 'I've seen no ill effects!'. Oh, do you mean with your limited vision? Most of these people have not even considered what they don't know.

It's a tough hobby when it comes down to proving things especially when humankind has not even learned something yet. And that's even aside from the emotionally fueled responses by those who ARE professionals in a scientific field. Somehow they believe because they've mastered one, they're master of all. But the truth is, even masters in the marine sciences don't know everything. To ignore that fact is to invite mistakes in all sciences.
 
Why does everyone immediately buy into a magic unnamed contaminant as the sole source of Kent magnesium mechanics on bryopsis? Huge anecdote leap, not even the company has delineated the ingredient. I think reefers literally made it up and bought it lock stock and any other magnesium works too per web threads barrel.

What's a scientific take on being sure of a contaminant without knowing what it is or ever repeating an experiment using only guessed contaminants

What if a perfectly normal photosynthetic mechanism is at play, how can we be sure?
 
Under the exact same conditions we all accept as proof, peroxide must have the same magic component because when you dose it to a bryopsis tank the bleaching and targeting manifestations are the same. So far, it seems just as acceptable to claim there is no secret contaminant as there is to claim one without any known facts.
 
Why does everyone immediately buy into a magic unnamed contaminant as the sole source of Kent magnesium mechanics on bryopsis? Huge anecdote leap, not even the company has delineated the ingredient. I think reefers literally made it up and bought it lock stock and any other magnesium works too per web threads barrel.

What's a scientific take on being sure of a contaminant without knowing what it is or ever repeating an experiment using only guessed contaminants

What if a perfectly normal photosynthetic mechanism is at play, how can we be sure?

Post hoc reasoning combined with desire is very very powerful. People ignore the many many experiences of people adding Tech M with no effect on bryopsis - which is at least as many if not more that report an effect. When you do try it and report no success, as I did, people immediately say that you were doing it wrong.
 
I fully believe you may have had a non compliant result. Water dosing for benthic anchors by rule has to have variable outcomes as it's an indirect method (and most common for sure, works sometimes we can see too)

The day everyone's outcome complies with a given method is the day diversification in algae control will stop. We will all gravitate to what works always. As of now, after 30 yrs or so public info trading on reef tank procedure, still no consensus, many ways are offered.
 
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