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experience with zoafrag.com

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Hello everyone,

first of all let me shortly introduce myself. My name is Matthias, I am a reef aquarist from Germany. I have 15 years of experience in the hobby and keep 600 gallons of saltwater with all kind of stuff (SPS, LPS, Softies, Zoas etc.).

The reason why I write here is the following: We –that is a group of 20 reef hobbyists from Germany- decided to order about 70 zoanthid fragments from John of zoafrag.com for around 1500$ in total.

Like written above, I have 600gallons of saltwater and I have received many packages with SPS, LPS, zoas and so one, but my experience with zoafrag.com is truly unique:

-The 70 frags arrived in a package of 5 lb
(to compare: we also ordered about 50 frags at coralfanatics.com, the package had about 30lb, and almost everything survived)

-many of the zoas had a white film on their surface when they arrived and smelled bad

-the frags where not glued to frag stones but just broken off the mother colony. Many of the polyps were so small you could hardly see them without a lens, this means many polyps had about the size of a pinhead when expanded.

-like I expected it, in my case out of the 13 frags I orderd 7 dissolved and 5 partly dissolved during the first couple of days

-The polyps which survived are these kind of pinhead-polyps (see pictures), sometimes with completely different colours than they should have

-one out of the 13 frags has the promised quality (nice colouration, 10 Polyps, normal polyp size, so at least one positive thing)

-other members of the group who also ordered at zoafrag.com had even higher loss rates

Of course, all of us were really disappointed and tried to contact John of zoafrags.com. Here is what happened afterwards:

-email to John and asking for a solution
-John claims to be on holiday for 10 days (but no announcement like this can be found on his website)
-after 10 days email to John and asking for a solution
-no reaction
-next email the other day
-no reaction
-3rd email,
-again no reaction from John
-email where I said I am gonna post my experience with him on the internet
-John answers 30 Minutes later(!) and say that “I am having legal advice†and that “all your emails will be storedâ€
-again several emails asking for a solution
-again no reaction from John




Finally I have to add that it seems that we are not the only ones who had a bad experience with zoafrag.com, just google for “zoafrag†and “experienceâ€.

Don´t get me wrong, I am not saying this guy will always behave like this, but in our special case he did. 1500$ blown in the wind…



Best regards
Matthias
 

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yikes! sorry to hear about your losses.. thanks for the heads up.... :)
 
Sorry to hear about your experience....I was reading this up on the MAAST forum and noticed that just about every other forum has this thread.

sorry about what happened to you but thank you for spreading the word so no one else gets shafted.
 
samething happend to us over on swf. Not near as much as the OP though.
http://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?t=326227

Also it happened to me a while back with the Satans breathes ive ordered from him.
But Ive been wanting to order a pretty large order from him cuz he has a lot of what I want in right now and on sale But im afraid too...
 
This is bad to here hope he will resolve this with you and I hope your next experience with a vendor on this side of the globe(if you have another) is a good one.
 
I've had the same experience with ZoaFrags.com about a year ago. I ordered a few frags of zoas none opened but I thought that I had done something wrong. I ordered again with some living and some not. I then ordered from another vendor and all lived. After doing this a few times I once again order from ZoaFrags.com and this time I didn't even bother with the credit as I knew I wasn't going to order from him again.

I in no way spent $1500 with the guy but I still know how you feel (Just a little). I'm very sorry you had this experience with this vendor. I do hope it is resolved quickly to your satisfaction.
 
I have never heard anything good about this vendor. Thanks for the heads up, i would never order from him.
 
Samething just happened with another group order on swf... all melted away quickly.
When asked for a return or to send again he said he would.
A couple days before its time for John to send he says hes going out of town and just returned the money...

Same has happened to me a few times. I wont order from him again
 
i ordered from him not too long ago as well... he gave me some bonus polyps and a frag of something else... on one frag he gave an extra 6-8 polyps and were very small with one big paly... the only thing that survived was the paly and 3 polyp of the zoa but only one is open out of 10-12...

but at least the bonus frag opened up and is doing good.

also ordered from a different vendor around that time and all the polyps survived and doing great :)
 
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