Fake locline? need help with return nozzel.

[JPG Corals]

I currently have two retun nozzels on my tank, one of the nozzels is cracked where it connects onto the 'ball'. I though locline is what I had but I guess I have a generic version of it?

I bought actual loc line segments and a nozzel but it does not fit. It seems the slip ball end I have is not the same brand...

Does locline make a slip style like pictured below? So it can slide into my elbow.

 

[ScottJ]

@Vivid Creative Aquatics maybe?

Probably will want to know what brand tank, any other info.

 

[JPG Corals]

@Vivid Creative Aquatics maybe?

Probably will want to know what brand tank, any other info.

Ultum Nature System
R60

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

You probably have "Snap-Lok". As mentioned above, you can look at the VCA website for adapters.

Loc-Line | Vivid Creative Aquatics

vividcreativeaquatics.com

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

Or you can search for thw Loc Line part you need... BRS and others carry them.

Search results for: '' - Bulk Reef Supply

Bulk Reef Supply - Saltwater Aquarium Supplies for Reef Tanks

www.bulkreefsupply.com

 

[JPG Corals]

So it seems this is what I need. My elbow, where my slip connector goes into has a 1" / 25mm opening. Their are three options that seem would fit my situation

1. 20mm-25mm(1") to 1/2" locline
2. 20mm-25mm(1") to 3/4" locline
3. (1")25mm-30mm to 3/4" locline

Is there any benefit of going 1/2" vs 3/4"?

 

[VintageReefer]

@Vivid Creative Aquatics is pretty active here and has all sorts of kits and adapters. I’m sure they will have a solution when they see this

I Suggest you get their random flow generators also

 

[JPG Corals]

@Vivid Creative Aquatics is pretty active here and has all sorts of kits and adapters. I’m sure they will have a solution when they see this

I Suggest you get their random flow generators also

Yes I was planning to get their RFG. It seems their kit includes these adapters.

 

[Vivid Creative Aquatics Verified Sponsor]

Yes I was planning to get their RFG. It seems their kit includes these adapters.

That looks like the same slip-fitting that Innovative Marine has been using for ages. Did that fitting slip inside that pipe, as shown in your fist post? if it is the exact same part - there an outside change that Loc-line will actual fit it.

Looking up the tank , i found this image of the stock setup

If yours looks like that then our 2021-050 Modular hose adapter will work with it - that's the same adapter that is including in our 1/2in Random Flow Generator Flow kit

If on the other hand you wat to go with something larger - we'll need to determine the actual plumbing.

In one of your photos, it indicated that it is a 25mm pipe

However - if that is the same slip fitting that IM uses on their tanks, then the OD of that fitting is closer to 20-22mm, which would mean that the inside of the pipe has been reduced to fit it. If you can,

I would measure the OD with a set of calipers and do it in millimeters.

I would also try and measure the internal diameter of the plumbing on the outlet - it almost looks like there may be a reducer in there. Maybe Some sort of insert, since the inside of the pipe looks white (PVC), as opposed to gray (UPV-C)

Depending on what you find - it will determine which Multidapter or which flow kits will fit that pipe

I'm genuinely interested in how this one works out - I have to had much opportunity to really get some good measurements on the UNS tanks

 

[JPG Corals]

That looks like the same slip-fitting that Innovative Marine has been using for ages. Did that fitting slip inside that pipe, as shown in your fist post? if it is the exact same part - there an outside change that Loc-line will actual fit it.

Looking up the tank , i found this image of the stock setup

If yours looks like that then our 2021-050 Modular hose adapter will work with it - that's the same adapter that is including in our 1/2in Random Flow Generator Flow kit

If on the other hand you wat to go with something larger - we'll need to determine the actual plumbing.

In one of your photos, it indicated that it is a 25mm pipe

However - if that is the same slip fitting that IM uses on their tanks, then the OD of that fitting is closer to 20-22mm, which would mean that the inside of the pipe has been reduced to fit it. If you can,

I would measure the OD with a set of calipers and do it in millimeters.

I would also try and measure the internal diameter of the plumbing on the outlet - it almost looks like there may be a reducer in there. Maybe Some sort of insert, since the inside of the pipe looks white (PVC), as opposed to gray (UPV-C)

Depending on what you find - it will determine which Multidapter or which flow kits will fit that pipe

I'm genuinely interested in how this one works out - I have to had much opportunity to really get some good measurements on the UNS tanks

@Vivid Creative Aquatics

Here are the measurements.
Can you advise on what RFG kit would work best for me?

Also if there are any more measurements needed, let me know.

 

[Vivid Creative Aquatics Verified Sponsor]

looks like a proper 25mm.

If you want to go with a pre-configured kit your choices you have a a few good options - and you can determine which is best by the amount of flow your return pump will deliver.

These suggestions are based on one return pump providing flow to both outlets - after any head loss

here goes:

600-1,000+ GPH - Singe 1/2in RFGs on both sides
You'll need two of these kits - one for each side. At the upper end of the low suggested will be super punchy wave-maker like flow and will easily move the entire body of water - you probably wont even need a power head. At the lower end, they will still be pretty good and suited for a softy or LPS tank.

You may be bale to use the included 2025-050 Multidapter to plug right into the outlet. If not, then you'll be able to use the other include adapters (2021-050 modular hose adapter) to connect to the stock push in fitting - either way this will work.

You may or may not want to add some additional 1/2in Loc-Line for for some added adjustability. If you do - one stick should do it - you would split it in half and use 3 segments on each side





800-1,600+ GPH - Singe 3/4in RFGs on both sides
As before, you'll need two of these - one for each side. for this size tank these may be physically a little bit large. But, if your pump is at a near the upper range, these would be a nice broad and wave-maker like flow.
This size at or below the lower end of the flow suggested would also do really nice for as freshwater tank.



1800-2,000+ GPH - Dual 1/2in RFGs on both sides
if you want to get real crazy with it - you could do dual 1/2in on either side . I personal wouldn't suggest it, simply do to aesthetics, but that's just me - i like a super clean look. BUT, if you really want to get things moving, four 1/2in RFGs with a supply flow of around 1800-2000+ GPH would do the trick.

you would want to add a few more segments 1/2in Loc-Line for for some added adjustability in this case




If you have any additional questions, let me know.

 

[JPG Corals]

looks like a proper 25mm.

If you want to go with a pre-configured kit your choices you have a a few good options - and you can determine which is best by the amount of flow your return pump will deliver.

These suggestions are based on one return pump providing flow to both outlets - after any head loss

here goes:

600-1,000+ GPH - Singe 1/2in RFGs on both sides
You'll need two of these kits - one for each side. At the upper end of the low suggested will be super punchy wave-maker like flow and will easily move the entire body of water - you probably wont even need a power head. At the lower end, they will still be pretty good and suited for a softy or LPS tank.

You may be bale to use the included 2025-050 Multidapter to plug right into the outlet. If not, then you'll be able to use the other include adapters (2021-050 modular hose adapter) to connect to the stock push in fitting - either way this will work.

You may or may not want to add some additional 1/2in Loc-Line for for some added adjustability. If you do - one stick should do it - you would split it in half and use 3 segments on each side





800-1,600+ GPH - Singe 3/4in RFGs on both sides
As before, you'll need two of these - one for each side. for this size tank these may be physically a little bit large. But, if your pump is at a near the upper range, these would be a nice broad and wave-maker like flow.
This size at or below the lower end of the flow suggested would also do really nice for as freshwater tank.



1800-2,000+ GPH - Dual 1/2in RFGs on both sides
if you want to get real crazy with it - you could do dual 1/2in on either side . I personal wouldn't suggest it, simply do to aesthetics, but that's just me - i like a super clean look. BUT, if you really want to get things moving, four 1/2in RFGs with a supply flow of around 1800-2000+ GPH would do the trick.

you would want to add a few more segments 1/2in Loc-Line for for some added adjustability in this case




If you have any additional questions, let me know.

For reference I am using a sicce sdc 6.0 with a max head pressure of (530-1450 gph). I roughly estimate my head pressure height around 8' (4' vertical, 6x45°, 1x90°)

I measured the volume of water coming out of one nozel with it being about:
~250 GPH @ 75% power on the pump.
500 GPH total with both returns.
&
~323 GPH @ 100% power on the pump.
646 GPH total with both returns.

So I think it's safe to say I need to choose your first option '600-1,000+ GPH - Singe 1/2in RFGs on both sides' in oreder to use these on both sides? Also using my pump at a esstimated 90% or higher.

 

[Vivid Creative Aquatics Verified Sponsor]

For reference I am using a sicce sdc 6.0 with a max head pressure of (530-1450 gph). I roughly estimate my head pressure height around 8' (4' vertical, 6x45°, 1x90°)

I measured the volume of water coming out of one nozel with it being about:
~250 GPH @ 75% power on the pump.
500 GPH total with both returns.
&
~323 GPH @ 100% power on the pump.
646 GPH total with both returns.

So I think it's safe to say I need to choose your first option '600-1,000+ GPH - Singe 1/2in RFGs on both sides' in order to use these on both sides? Also using my pump at a estimated 90% or higher.

Correct - based on that, i would suggest the 1/2in RFG nozzles - one for each side.

try and use as little Loc-Line as possible to - as each segment can rob you of as much as 1.5 to 2% of your output at the end the outlet.

Also - the 1/2in RFGs will give you the biggest bang for your buck should you decide to upgrade that pump in the future. They can handle and convert a considerable amount of flow, given their size.

 

[JPG Corals]

Correct - based on that, i would suggest the 1/2in RFG nozzles - one for each side.

try and use as little Loc-Line as possible too - as each segment can robs you of as much as 1.5 to 2% of your output at the end the outlet.

Also - the 1/2in RFGs will also give you the biggest bang for your buck should you device to upgrade that pump in the future. They can handle and convert a considerable amount of flow, given their size.

Amazing support! I appreciate the time helping me with this. I will be for sure placing an order for the RFG.