Fallow

[Paulmarks]

well as I'm still puzzled if it was brook or velvet their so similar. Both fallow periods are the same.

BUT.

Velvet eats light. It's a photosynth just to be a PITA.

I have a full reef going. Corals and anemones that I can't light starve while trying to light starve the velvet (if it is velvet)

I can't find the right words to google. But does velvet "eat" a certain light color. I'll use white for instance. If they eat white. Will me setting white to 0% starve them. While the blues violets etc. keep my corals happy?

Please Help. As I'm becoming very annoyed. Because everything has a catch to it. Even going fishless for 6-8 weeks.

 

[helen ann]

Hi, this may help you figure out if you have/had velvet.
Sorry about your tank and frustration

This is information provided here on R2R by @Humblefish

Disease Index: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/fish-disease-index.247600/
Velvet Info: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/velvet-amyloodinium-ocellatum.217570/

Taken from Velvet Article:
Velvet likes light. As a dinoflagellate, velvet tomonts and dinospores are both capable of using photosynthesis as a means of obtaining energy. So when a dinospore ruptures from its cyst, it propels upward (towards the light) by using whip-like appendages for locomotion. Therefore, top swimming fish are probably more at risk than bottom dwellers. I highly suggest not using an aquarium light during treatment and also when running fallow for velvet (if possible in a fish only system).

 

[melypr1985]

well as I'm still puzzled if it was brook or velvet their so similar. Both fallow periods are the same.

BUT.

Velvet eats light. It's a photosynth just to be a PITA.

I have a full reef going. Corals and anemones that I can't light starve while trying to light starve the velvet (if it is velvet)

I can't find the right words to google. But does velvet "eat" a certain light color. I'll use white for instance. If they eat white. Will me setting white to 0% starve them. While the blues violets etc. keep my corals happy?

Please Help. As I'm becoming very annoyed. Because everything has a catch to it. Even going fishless for 6-8 weeks.

If your unable to go lights out, then don't. You can only do what you can here. No matter what velvet still needs a fish host to continue it's life cycle, so it should work out for you in the end. If I were you, I would run the full 76 days fallow just to be safe.

 

[Paulmarks]

I just don't wanna go thru this fallow process and their eating light and still present. I'm thinking about tearing the whole thing down and starting all over.

 

[brandon429]

I read nothing about them feeding off light though, in the links? where did you see that requirement for velvet disease

 

[melypr1985]

I just don't wanna go thru this fallow process and their eating light and still present. I'm thinking about tearing the whole thing down and starting all over.

I read nothing about them feeding off light though, in the links? where did you see that requirement for velvet disease

What it says is that they get energy from light because they are dinoflagellet (which I can't spell). It does not say that it can survive off of light alone. @Paulmarks I assure you that they will not survive a fallow period of appropriate length. They cannot survive without a fish host.

 

[Paulmarks]

What it says is that they get energy from light because they are dinoflagellet (which I can't spell). It does not say that it can survive off of light alone. @Paulmarks I assure you that they will not survive a fallow period of appropriate length. They cannot survive without a fish host.

Ohhh I took it as they can survive from light. Well that's good news.

But I know exactly when and where the disease came from. A wild caught Royal gramma that the LFS said they quarantined later the boss admitted he never QT or sent to la or anything it was directly wild caught and placed in a for sale tank. My fault for not QTing

He admitted it because I made a big deal about it on the local forum he lost a lot of buisness.

 

[Paulmarks]

I read nothing about them feeding off light though, in the links? where did you see that requirement for velvet disease

Taken from Velvet Article:
Velvet likes light. As a dinoflagellate, velvettomonts and dinospores are both capable of using photosynthesis as a means of obtaining energy.

 

[brandon429]

I wonder if that's similar statement/implication how plants use light for energy but will die without nutrients added from a non-light source. understandable assumption as written. when they mention above the host as the critical link, perhaps that puts them back into controllable independent of lighting. my new takeaway was that any form of lighting helped at all, neat semi autotrophs apparently

 

[Paulmarks]

I wonder if that's similar statement/implication how plants use light for energy but will die without nutrients added from a non-light source. understandable assumption as written. when they mention above the host as the critical link, perhaps that puts them back into controllable independent of lighting.

This disease is categorized as a hybrid plant/animal it uses light like a plant for energy as you said. Which confused me. But know I understand they need a fish host for nutrients. Blood or whatever it is they eat from the fish. Well whatever they are their a PITA. I was very attached to my clowns. The whole family was. They were very intelligent and not aggressive. Most people talk about clowns attacking their hands. These two would rub against our hands like a cat or a dog wanting to be played with or fed. And greeted anyone who looked at the tank with wag like movements and flips as if saying "look I'm cute. Feed me" lol