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Does anybody else fast their fish?
I never considered doing this or even heard of it up to a few months ago. I read an article and decided to to give it a try.
Currently I skip Wednesday and Saturday feedings. I have been doing this for about 6 weeks and my fish seem healthier, fatter, more active, more color... Not to mention my tank is cleaner.

Just wondered if anyone else does this and what results you see?
 
Does anybody else fast their fish?
I never considered doing this or even heard of it up to a few months ago. I read an article and decided to to give it a try.
Currently I skip Wednesday and Saturday feedings. I have been doing this for about 6 weeks and my fish seem healthier, fatter, more active, more color... Not to mention my tank is cleaner.

Just wondered if anyone else does this and what results you see?
What's the science behind it?
 
Most of my fish are not tiny, I feed them every other day as I have alot and there all chunky. If I go on vacation for 5 days or less they don't get food. If its longer I preportion the food and have them fed every few days. Here's a vid to give you a visual idea of what I'm dealing with.

 
Supposedly to clear their digestive system and less chance of bloating and constipation.

Not sure if it's true, but I'm definitely seeing positive results.
Interesting...I imagine overfeeding probably does cause digestive issues particularly in certain species (not saying you're overfeeding)...I wonder if feeding probiotics has a similar effect since some are supposed to aid in digestion
 
Most of my fish are not tiny, I feed them every other day as I have alot and there all chunky. If I go on vacation for 5 days or less they don't get food. If its longer I preportion the food and have them fed every few days. Here's a vid to give you a visual idea of what I'm dealing with.

That's for the response. So effectively your fasting 3-4 times per week.

How long have you maintained this schedule?
 
Interesting...I imagine overfeeding probably does cause digestive issues particularly in certain species (not saying you're overfeeding)...I wonder if feeding probiotics has a similar effect since some are supposed to aid in digestion
I think if anything I was feeding on the light side previously. I never noticed any issues and they were all healthy before I started doing this.
But it's difficult to say exactly what constitutes a healthy diet vs too much or too little.
 
Take them out of captivity and then starve them ?? Mine, well fed
 
how would you go about feeding fish that need to be fed multiples times a day? like anthias, Im guessing you shouldnt fast those
 
That's for the response. So effectively your fasting 3-4 times per week.

How long have you maintained this schedule?
Around 6 months ago. By day 2 my Japanese Dragon Eel starts coming out cruising around so that's my cue it's time to eat. Also they get alot of food so basically its like feeding everyday almost.
 
While there are plenty of people trying to minimize feedings for various reasons, so many kinds of fish can probably survive fine with reduced feedings, I would caution you at trying to apply human trends to different kinds of organisms - there are some kind of fish that this is quite unhealthy for and which will not cope well with it (anthias and some active planktivores come to mind).

While I don't know if there is a substantial body of scientific study saying that some benefit comes from fasting in humans (and I have no intention of debating it either way), the historical/evolutionary background to humans supports the idea that we evolved to be capable of fasting and being fine afterwards with the relative sparsity of food available to us in the early periods of humanity and sudden availability that came from hunting and such supports intermittent fasting as a 'normal' eating schedule for humans.

This isn't the case in a reef environment, where at literally any time of day, there is an abundance of food available in the water column, so many of the organisms that live in a reef have evolved with near constant availability of their food source, and as a result may not be evolutionarily predispositioned to acclimate well to periods without food. Of course, everything will do this on some time scale (minutes, hours, sometimes days), and it varies wildly between species, but it should not be considered an expectation that reef organisms will be able to fast for a day or more by default, since they are often not ever required to in their home environment. Many organisms that we aquarists don't usually keep but which are plentiful in reefs are actually these animals that require a constant food supply to graze on, or a large quantity of a specific diet available to them, and our inability to maintain a constant food supply in the tank makes them unsuitable for us to keep.

It's also worth mentioning that digestive tract problems are also much more likely to be cause by the available food - in the wild there can be a massive variety and lots of live foods, which many aquarists offer neither. Knowing the diet of your animals and providing something that suits them is critical to their long term health, and varying their diet is likely a key component to that too. Fish digestive tracts are often fairly inefficient at extracting nutrients from their food, which lends some additional evidence that food being available regularly is important for them to be able to eat enough to get what they need.


On the opposite side of the scale, I feed my tank heavily, twice a day, with phytoplankton in the morning and evening, and I've got a bunch of healthy fish and a few spawning pairs of things that regularly produce eggs or larvae in pretty good quantities - which I think is an indicator of animal health. This nearly opposite approach can still produce good results, as I haven't seen any signs of distress, constipation, loss of coloration, or other indicators that would point towards a problem.
 
Take them out of captivity and then starve them ?? Mine, well fed
Bit extreme of a response no?
There is food in the tank, in the rockwork, etc. They can graze and find food. It's not like there's 0 food source just because I didn't add any in 24 hours.
Hardly starving.
 
how would you go about feeding fish that need to be fed multiples times a day? like anthias, Im guessing you shouldnt fast those
I think it depends on how mature your tank is. A mature tanks going to have food regardless of whether you're adding it or not, at least for a little while.
 
I wouldn't call it fasting but I do skip days feeding them as well . I do not have a set schedule for feeding or an auto feeding machine.

Yesterday I did not do any feeding . Today I will put in some shrimp. Tommorow I will do some nori . Whatever I choose I only do one feeding a day and then skip random days.

Before I got my wrasse I heard and read they require feedings of 6 times daily due to their short digestive tracks . I guess I broke the mold on this because I never feed more then once daily and my wrasse is looking great .

I am off track and rambling but yeah I am a fan of skipping a feeding day or two occasionally . You have to think that in nature fish are not eating at set times and getting food all the time I would imagine they go sometimes hours or days without eating and have to use a lot more energy/calories to look for their food. Whereas in our tanks they would burn far less calories/energy searching for food . I am more concerned about my fish getting obese rather than starving hahahaha
 
While there are plenty of people trying to minimize feedings for various reasons, so many kinds of fish can probably survive fine with reduced feedings, I would caution you at trying to apply human trends to different kinds of organisms - there are some kind of fish that this is quite unhealthy for and which will not cope well with it (anthias and some active planktivores come to mind).

While I don't know if there is a substantial body of scientific study saying that some benefit comes from fasting in humans (and I have no intention of debating it either way), the historical/evolutionary background to humans supports the idea that we evolved to be capable of fasting and being fine afterwards with the relative sparsity of food available to us in the early periods of humanity and sudden availability that came from hunting and such supports intermittent fasting as a 'normal' eating schedule for humans.

This isn't the case in a reef environment, where at literally any time of day, there is an abundance of food available in the water column, so many of the organisms that live in a reef have evolved with near constant availability of their food source, and as a result may not be evolutionarily predispositioned to acclimate well to periods without food. Of course, everything will do this on some time scale (minutes, hours, sometimes days), and it varies wildly between species, but it should not be considered an expectation that reef organisms will be able to fast for a day or more by default, since they are often not ever required to in their home environment. Many organisms that we aquarists don't usually keep but which are plentiful in reefs are actually these animals that require a constant food supply to graze on, or a large quantity of a specific diet available to them, and our inability to maintain a constant food supply in the tank makes them unsuitable for us to keep.

It's also worth mentioning that digestive tract problems are also much more likely to be cause by the available food - in the wild there can be a massive variety and lots of live foods, which many aquarists offer neither. Knowing the diet of your animals and providing something that suits them is critical to their long term health, and varying their diet is likely a key component to that too. Fish digestive tracts are often fairly inefficient at extracting nutrients from their food, which lends some additional evidence that food being available regularly is important for them to be able to eat enough to get what they need.


On the opposite side of the scale, I feed my tank heavily, twice a day, with phytoplankton in the morning and evening, and I've got a bunch of healthy fish and a few spawning pairs of things that regularly produce eggs or larvae in pretty good quantities - which I think is an indicator of animal health. This nearly opposite approach can still produce good results, as I haven't seen any signs of distress, constipation, loss of coloration, or other indicators that would point towards a problem.
But there are times in nature when food is not available to fish. And they do go several days without any food. No?
 
In some environments, but not in reefs, really. Marine snow and small prey (pelagic and benthic) are an always available food source, and there are fish, inverts, and corals that have trouble outside of that sort of environment (thus why NPS tanks are so food-demanding, why people struggle to keep flame scallops in captivity, why anthias need to be fed multiple times a day for full coloration and health, why mandarins constantly forage, etc.)
 
In some environments, but not in reefs, really. Marine snow and small prey (pelagic and benthic) are an always available food source, and there are fish, inverts, and corals that have trouble outside of that sort of environment (thus why NPS tanks are so food-demanding, why people struggle to keep flame scallops in captivity, why anthias need to be fed multiple times a day for full coloration and health, why mandarins constantly forage, etc.)
All valid points, and I won't argue that some species need more feedings than others. But there are times when the supply is lesser, even in a reef. Weather is a major contributor to this.
I wouldn't suggest doing this in a new tank, but in a mature tank there's going to be food available for little effort between feedings. Algae, meaty bits of uneaten food, pods, etc... If fish are hungry, they can find food... It doesn't necessarily need to be raining down on their heads every day.
 
Bit extreme of a response no?
There is food in the tank, in the rockwork, etc. They can graze and find food. It's not like there's 0 food source just because I didn't add any in 24 hours.
Hardly starving.
Not saying youre starving them, just an overall principle However, I should add, there have been weekends I was gone and my person to watch my tank also unavailable and they went from Friday until I returned Sunday without food.
They were hungry and tank was nice and clear but I try to avoid this if possible.
My situation is not a handful of fish but over 30 and with 19 tangs, there is no way theyre going too long without a meal before they get very ornary
 

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