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Karen00 · Dec 9, 2021

Jedi1199 said:
Oh no, it was the other way around. He got here 18 minutes before I got home on Monday and 27 minutes before on Tuesday. There is no way he could have known. I start at 3am and leave the house at 1;15 (it is a 75 mile drive each way).

I was just kidding... Because that would be way too creepy if that was the case!!

Karen00 · Dec 9, 2021

Now that is my "spitting out my coffee" laugh for the day! I needed that! Thanks for posting.

How are your corals doing?

Lyss · Dec 9, 2021

I’m actually glad to see this lol. FedEx was always pretty good for me but lately I’d been hearing a lot of complaints from friends and family. Then something happened to me that made me specifically start to seek out vendors who ship UPS to buy stuff from:

FedEx drivers will make up odd excuses for an attempted delivery that wasn't really attempted. I've learned that they don't have to even ring your doorbell (it's at their discretion), and I think that's a covid thing.

My building is a high-rise apartment building w/a concierge and a mail room where all the packages get delivered -- it is literally impossible to not be able to deliver b/c there is someone on duty to accept the daily deliveries 24/7 and sign for them if signature is required.

Well. Over the summer I ordered a toadstool from Biota and it was shipped FedEx overnight with signature required. The day of arrival at about 1 pm when nothing had yet come I checked the tracking and it said delivery was attempted but couldn't be delivered. I called FedEx and was angry (but not so angry or belligerent that they would just write me off), telling them it was livestock and I was sitting home the whole time waiting for it. I asked that it be delivered that day. It took a few hours but tracking showed it as back out for delivery, and it was finally delivered around 7 p.m. that evening. Crisis averted but I was like, never again.

Everything I have ever ordered overnighted that was shipped via UPS has arrived before 10 a.m. delivered to the concierge the next day, w/o fail.

ZoWhat · Dec 9, 2021

Karen00 said:
Now that is my "spitting out my coffee" laugh for the day! I needed that! Thanks for posting. How are your corals doing?

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jcolliii · Dec 9, 2021

Up here United Package Smashers earn their name - I have personally seen a UPS driver toss a box onto my porch from 15 feet away. Given a choice, I will go with FedEx 110% of the time. As others have mentioned, they almost certainly are not allowed to do what you asked. What I do in the winter is leave an insulated cooler on the porch with a 40hour heat pack inside taped to the side with a note on the door asking them to leave the perishable box inside of the cooler. No problems doing this twice now. But... I also watch delivery notifications, and come home within an hour of delivery, float the bags and then go right back to work. Maybe something to try next time?

Edit: woops, fingers too fast... or hold for pickup. I do that more and more.

ZoWhat · Dec 9, 2021

jcolliii said:
Up here United Package Smashers earn their name - I have personally seen a UPS driver toss a box onto my porch from 15 feet away. Given a choice, I will go with FedEx 110% of the time. As others have mentioned, they almost certainly are not allowed to do what you asked. What I do in the winter is leave an insulated cooler on the porch with a 40hour heat pack inside taped to the side with a note on the door asking them to leave the perishable box inside of the cooler. No problems doing this twice now. But... I also watch delivery notifications, and come home within an hour of delivery, float the bags and then go right back to work. Maybe something to try next time?

Edit: woops, fingers too fast... or hold for pickup. I do that more and more.

I think it comes down to Regions

In Ohio, a UPS driver (unionized, well paid, has common sense under their hat) would have done the common courtesy thing I asked.

jcolliii · Dec 9, 2021

Then I am pretty sure you would be asking your driver to do something they could be fired for.

Gtinnel · Dec 9, 2021

I have better luck with FedEX in my area than any other carrier. I do hold my breath a little as a livestock package goes through Memphis, which I've heard nothing but horror stories about. Usually my order arrives by 10am or earlier.

Lbrdsoxfan · Dec 9, 2021

zoa what said:
I think it comes down to Regions

In Ohio, a UPS driver (unionized, well paid, has common sense under their hat) would have done the common courtesy thing I asked.

I'm lucky, I know my UPS, FedEx and USPS carriers by name. Even better, my UPS yard is within 2 miles of my home, so if I'm in a bind and get there before 9 a.m. they will pull if off the truck for me. FedEx, I'm fortunate they have me at the top of the route. Dealing with Fedex is like herding cats.

Cell · Dec 10, 2021

Manny’s Reef said:
If the evidence exists that permission was granted, I'm not sure what that lawsuit would look like. Perhaps if there was disagreement between the parties claiming that permission was not granted then yes there could be a case. However, if a note by the owner specifically granted permission to enter, then I would assume the lawsuit gets shot down as frivolous. I can imagine, "May it please the court. Your Honor I am here today seeking damages against FedEx for trespass. I gave them permission in writing to enter my home but after they left, I changed my mind. That is why I am here suing them." I don't think this flies.

A handwritten note left on a front door could left by anyone such as a disgruntled neighbor or kids pranking. Then what? Delivery guy might find himself on the wrong end of a gun.

Cell · Dec 10, 2021

Karen00 said:
Everyone understands delays can happen. What I find upsetting is that there isn't even an effort by the courier to contact the recipient to see what should be done when the package will be late. I don't expect this for regular packages but livestock is a whole different ballgame. I also bet that somewhere in the terms and conditions that Fedex is absolved of any responsibility if owner grants access. I'm sure they have a cya for almost everything.

If you want livestock to have special designation and protocols, then expect to pay a lot more than the current rate. It would need it's own truck etc...

LiveFreeAndReef · Dec 10, 2021

Cell said:
I doubt they are allowed to open front doors, note or not.

It wasn't FedEx, but UPS tore open my screen door (that was locked) to place a package in between the screen door and main door. Was kinda funny to watch on camera, that guy really had to yank it open

aws2266 · Dec 10, 2021

Karen00 said:
That is craziness! I swear, it sounds like that driver was watching your house and waited to deliver your package when they saw you leave.

Did you leave the driver a nice fat tip for doing more than is required of him? These are huge operations and we're paying $50 to have something overnighted. You get what you pay for.

Utubereefer · Dec 10, 2021

Waiting for 2 packages today…

LeftyReefer · Dec 10, 2021

You should have picked it up form the Fedex hub. that is what I always do now and haven't had any issues since I started doing that. Now my packages show up at the hub and I get a notification and I'm on the way. No waiting, no extra time in a cold delivery truck, etc... it's sitting inside a heated building waiting for me to pick it up.

Many vendors are requiring hub pickups right now. If i was shipping corals or fish, I'd require a hub pickup. Cuts the final delivery time down big time.

I just received an order of fish and inverts this week from Dr. Reef. The day it was delivered, it was 24F out. Package made it to the hub around 9:30 AM, I was at the hub shortly after 10AM, and the fish were all acclimated and in my DT by 11AM. The package was sitting inside a heated building the whole time after it arrived. not a 24F delivery truck. Hub pickups takes a lot of the risk out I've found. As long as your fedex package makes it through Memphis on time, it should make it to your hub on time. Saying that, I've had a package sit at the World Hub for 4 days and everything died. Luckily Vendor replaced everything no questions asked.

Karen00 · Dec 10, 2021

aws2266 said:
Did you leave the driver a nice fat tip for doing more than is required of him? These are huge operations and we're paying $50 to have something overnighted. You get what you pay for.

Was this meant for the OP? You replied to me. I haven't had anything delivered in a long time.

Lbrdsoxfan · Dec 10, 2021

I'm frankly amazed that folks have to get corals and stock shipped like this. So when I retire and leave the lovely gulags of California, this is my aquatic future?! Are LFS's this rare going points east! I'm being fairly serious about this, I have a dozen decent LFS's within 20 miles of me. I get that it all comes from one of 2 major distribution chains, but the shipping horror stories got me freaked out!

Woodyman · Dec 10, 2021

jcolliii said:
Up here United Package Smashers earn their name - I have personally seen a UPS driver toss a box onto my porch from 15 feet away. Given a choice, I will go with FedEx 110% of the time. As others have mentioned, they almost certainly are not allowed to do what you asked. What I do in the winter is leave an insulated cooler on the porch with a 40hour heat pack inside taped to the side with a note on the door asking them to leave the perishable box inside of the cooler. No problems doing this twice now. But... I also watch delivery notifications, and come home within an hour of delivery, float the bags and then go right back to work. Maybe something to try next time?

Edit: woops, fingers too fast... or hold for pickup. I do that more and more.

I do the same. I watch on the apps and my cameras and head home from work when they are getting close. They are fairly consistent with timing. So any outside time limited pretty well. However, none of them with the exception of one recently have ever placed it in the provided cooler. They have all set it next to or on top of the cooler. Despite a note in the delivery instructions and on the cooler...