Filling a tank obly halfway?

[afrokobe]

Dart frogs get poisonous from the diet i thought

thats true. captive bred and raised ones aren't poisonous

 

[Derrick0580]

Couldn’t you drill the tank lower and install an overflow at the half way point? I mean a 300 gallon filled halfway is still 150 gallons!

 

[GHOSTLY]

thats true. captive bred and raised ones aren't poisonous

Could poison dart frogs live in semi aquatic? I used to keep fire bellys

 

[afrokobe]

Could poison dart frogs live in semi aquatic? I used to keep fire bellys

Not sure, don't have much knowledge on keeping frogs unfortunately. Aren't dart frogs terrestrial? Id imagine another species might take better advantage of the water and land access.

If I were to do a paludarium now, I probably stock it with vampire crabs. They look pretty cool and can go in both water/land

 

[SlugSnorter]

Could poison dart frogs live in semi aquatic? I used to keep fire bellys

nope. They are tropical TREE frogs, they need a habitat designed around that. I would not keep them without prior amphibian and paladaruim keeping experience

 

[Sharkbait19]

nope. They are tropical TREE frogs, they need a habitat designed around that. I would not keep them without prior amphibian and paladaruim keeping experience

+1
You can have some small water features but they aren’t a swimming species like leopard frogs or firebelly toads.

 

[SlugSnorter]

+1
You can have some small water features but they aren’t a swimming species like leopard frogs or firebelly toads.

beyond that, they are super sensitive, and require very specific conditions

 

[GHOSTLY]

nope. They are tropical TREE frogs, they need a habitat designed around that. I would not keep them without prior amphibian and paladaruim keeping experience

That's what I was thinking. I've kept fire bellies snd stuff. I knew they were arboreal frogs. Judt wanted to check

 

[SlugSnorter]

That's what I was thinking. I've kept fire bellies snd stuff. I knew they were arboreal frogs. Judt wanted to check

the care of fire bellied toads is very different

 

[GHOSTLY]

the care of fire bellied toads is very different

Yes im aware. For semi aquatic someone suggested vampire crabs. What exactly are those?

 

[SlugSnorter]

Yes im aware. For semi aquatic someone suggested vampire crabs. What exactly are those?

big purple crabs from southeast asia.

 

[Sharkbait19]

Yes im aware. For semi aquatic someone suggested vampire crabs. What exactly are those?

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[SlugSnorter]

they are cool, but IMO its best to hold off on paladarums until you are at least fairly skilled in one of the terrain types (the water or land portion), and have a basic knowledge of the other.

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[GHOSTLY]

they are cool, but IMO its best to hold off on paladarums until you are at least fairly skilled in one of the terrain types (the water or land portion), and have a basic knowledge of the other.

I've kept terrariums with only live plants before where I grow grass and ferns and I have enough experience in fw to have grown baby tears before. Would that be sufficient enough to start a beginning paludarium

 

[SlugSnorter]

I've kept terrariums with only live plants before where I grow grass and ferns and I have enough experience in fw to have grown baby tears before. Would that be sufficient enough to start a beginning paludarium

thats good, if you feel you are ready, you should get started in some paladarium communities and start looking into the biotype you want to make in more detail.

heres a decent starter guide to vampire crabs https://www.aquariumsource.com/vampire-crab/

They are tropical freshwater crabs, so are more sensitive than some other freshwater species. They need a well kept enclosure that is humid and warm, but not stagnent.

 

[MnFish1]

This doesn't make sense. a 1/2 filled 200 gallon aquarium - is a lot different than a 1/2 filled 10 gallon. You could certainly rig up something - with a kind of saltwater marsh - with water falling off a cliff. Sounds like a kind of silly apartment

 

[SlugSnorter]

This doesn't make sense. a 1/2 filled 200 gallon aquarium - is a lot different than a 1/2 filled 10 gallon. You could certainly rig up something - with a kind of saltwater marsh - with water falling off a cliff. Sounds like a kind of silly apartment

haven't really heard of a saltwater paladarium beyond tidal ones. I don't think it end well in marsh... Are you thinking of brackish?

 

[MnFish1]

haven't really heard of a saltwater paladarium beyond tidal ones. I don't think it end well in marsh... Are you thinking of brackish?

No - there is no reason you couldnt take a 'big' (up to the OP's definition) - stack up rock - so water cascades down the sides into the bottom half. Whats not clear is whether a sump in an issue. Ie if. was going to do it. - I would have an overflow set at 1/2 of the tank. Mangroves - as already mentioned, etc etc - could be used. It could be cool IMHO

 

[MnFish1]

PS I wasn't talking about a paladarium - per se - the key (IMHO) would be to get the background, etc to look natural - which would take some work. It actually sounds like an interesting project. Lets face it - the water would be well oxygenated.

 

[ApoIsland]

So ill be moving out soon. They don't allow fish tanks but they don't care for half filled fish tanks so that got me curious. Would a half filled tank for fw be harder to care for? Would nutrients and stuff be harder to manage?

Shouldn't be much more difficult from a maintenance standpoint. No difference form a biology/chemistry perspective.

Have one drilled through the bottom and you can set the overflow at what ever height you want. Could actually be a really cool setup trying to mimic the freshwater paludarium with a reef instead if you wanted to get crazy. I have dreams about doing that kind of setup someday when I have more time and space.

Do you know what overall water volume you would want? There are plenty of affordable options for custom tank builds these days.

Glasscages.com seems to be a popular builder here. I ended up going with some local guy with a glass shop for mine as the shipping was a bit pricey. My tank turned out great so far. Will know for sure in 20 years I guess....