Fin rot or not?

Matthew Spindler · Oct 7, 2018

Hi all!,

New to this forum and just hoping to get some good advice. I have a Fox Face and I've been treating him for fin rot. I've used EM Erythromycin, amoxicillin, and melafix marine all on separate dosing regiments. I have not seen any improvements. I'm really wondering what everybody else thinks this could be based on the pictures. I really appreciate any advice. It's difficult to see but the fox face has a small hole on his nose which I think might be from this bacteria whatever it is???

Thanks guys!

Crabs McJones · Oct 7, 2018

Welcome to R2R!
What kind of diet does the fish get, it could be HLLE @Big G what are your thoughts

#WelcometoR2R

Geebs19 · Oct 7, 2018

Welcome to R2R!!

4FordFamily · Oct 7, 2018

That looks like bacterial fin rot to me. I’d snag NFG to treat that fish in QT for 10-14 days.

NFG is some killer stuff if you’re fish bacteria!

Fudsey · Oct 7, 2018

Welcome to R2R ! ! !

HotRocks · Oct 7, 2018

I agree with @4FordFamily. If NFG can't be sourced quickly, add Kanaplex and Furan-2.

This would need to be done in a QT.

Might be a good idea to do a 5min FW dip and check for flukes as well.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/freshwater-dip.248898/

Welcome to R2R!

Big G · Oct 7, 2018

HotRocks said:
I agree with @4FordFamily. If NFG can't be sourced quickly, add Kanaplex and Furan-2.

This would need to be done in a QT.

Might be a good idea to do a 5min FW dip and check for flukes as well.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/freshwater-dip.248898/

Welcome to R2R!

+1 on this ^^^ another option, depending on your local availability is to use Sulfaplex + Neoplex. Works great on bacterial and fungal problems.
And Welcome to R2R! We are all here to help

Humblefish · Oct 7, 2018

^^ Agree with above

Matthew Spindler · Oct 8, 2018

HotRocks said:
I agree with @4FordFamily. If NFG can't be sourced quickly, add Kanaplex and Furan-2.

This would need to be done in a QT.

Might be a good idea to do a 5min FW dip and check for flukes as well.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/freshwater-dip.248898/

Welcome to R2R!

Thankyou guys for the replies!!!! You have been more helpful than anything! I have 2 questions:

1. What is NFG?

2. A QT tank is not financially feasible at the moment. Can I treat the display tank with it?

HotRocks · Oct 8, 2018

Matthew Spindler said:
Thankyou guys for the replies!!!! You have been more helpful than anything! I have 2 questions:

1. What is NFG?

2. A QT tank is not financially feasible at the moment. Can I treat the display tank with it?

Here is the link for NFG

http://store.nationalfishpharm.com/NFP-products-Nitrofuracin-Green-59584.Item.html

Antibiotics can't be used in Display. Most are not coral/invert safe. The other issue is with things like live Rock can absorb the medications and biofilm can degrade them. So the solution is a QT. You can get something as small as a 10gallon for treating a single fish. Or if you want something bigger, craigslist.

Matthew Spindler · Oct 8, 2018

HotRocks said:
Here is the link for NFG

http://store.nationalfishpharm.com/NFP-products-Nitrofuracin-Green-59584.Item.html

Antibiotics can't be used in Display. Most are not coral/invert safe. The other issue is with things like live Rock can absorb the medications and biofilm can degrade them. So the solution is a QT. You can get something as small as a 10gallon for treating a single fish. Or if you want something bigger, craigslist.

If its some sort of bacteria in my main display, how do I be sure that it wont happen again without medicating the main display? water changes are great but how can I be sure its not some bacteria living in the sand or rock itself?

4FordFamily · Oct 8, 2018

Matthew Spindler said:
If its some sort of bacteria in my main display, how do I be sure that it wont happen again without medicating the main display? water changes are great but how can I be sure its not some bacteria living in the sand or rock itself?

Bacteria is always present. An established healthy fish shouldn’t be negatively impacted by it, so if they’re not showing issues now they probably will not.

HotRocks · Oct 8, 2018

Matthew Spindler said:
If its some sort of bacteria in my main display, how do I be sure that it wont happen again without medicating the main display? water changes are great but how can I be sure its not some bacteria living in the sand or rock itself?

The only way to kill all bacteria good and bad is to bleach everything and start from scratch.

Antibiotics just aid the fish in recovery. This is much better explained here:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/bacterial-infections.191511/

Matthew Spindler · Oct 8, 2018

HotRocks said:
The only way to kill all bacteria good and bad is to bleach everything and start from scratch.

Antibiotics just aid the fish in recovery. This is much better explained here:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/bacterial-infections.191511/

Thankyou! I think thats what I'll be doing (Bleaching everything). Starting from scratch with a QT tank as well.