Finally joined the wrasse family

eatbreakfast · Feb 28, 2017

Chelated copper is safer. I've had success using copper with wrasses. Just bring the copper level up gradually and they handle it just fine.

jwshiver · Feb 28, 2017

I've had success with a Melanurus wrasse using Cupramine for a 30 day treatment with no problem, however I raised the copper levels much slower than the directions recommend. The directions state 1 ml per 10.5 gallons the first day. I used half of that dose waited 48 hours and dosed half again. I continued at half rate every 48 hours until I reach the therapeutic level of 0.5 mg/l. If at any point he looked stressed I waited an extra 24 hours before the next dose. Haven't tried it on fairy wrasses yet.

Ocelaris · Feb 28, 2017

Well the leopard wrasse was belly up this morning unfortunately. I'll have to try a more reputable lfs for them next time. It was only a day and a half since I got him, so I don't think it was something I did, but sad still. On the bright note the solarensis took some nibbles and was out until I came by, so everyone else looks to be on the up and up.

ngoodermuth · Feb 28, 2017

I'm sorry about your leopard

eatbreakfast · Feb 28, 2017

Leopard wrasses can be touch and go the first few days regardless of where it was from.

Ocelaris · Feb 28, 2017

I'm thinking of picking up a yellow coris since the sand isn't in use any more when I stop by the lfs to pick up the black worms and brine shrimp tonight. Also thinking of getting a lawnmower blenny, but would either of those harass the existing wrasses? Particularly the solorensis which is up sometimes, but isn't really comfortable yet. It's a 40 breeder, and the yellow coris at the store was small.

Ocelaris · Feb 28, 2017

Also, when I introduce them in a month, should I use a social acclimation box for them? I have 2 ocellaris, a yellow tang and a genicanthus Watanabe. How many can I put in a time in the elite aquatics box?

http://www.elite-aquatics.net/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=25

ngoodermuth · Feb 28, 2017

I think the crysus would be fine with your other wrasses. In my experience, they are pretty shy. Can't speak for the blenny, never had one.

eatbreakfast · Feb 28, 2017

They should both be fine with your fishes.

Ocelaris · Feb 28, 2017

Picked up a h. Chrysus, lawnmower blenny, and a lonely little c. Flavidorsalis which was calling my name. So that's about the max I'm comfortable with for a bioload, and I'm doing daily water changes to let the filters adjust. The quarantine tank has been up for over a month, and ammonia badge says were in good shape. Solorensis was up and about, but still shy when I come around. No aggression so far, and every one was nibbling on brine shrimp. I'll wait until everyone is eating well until I start prazi/Metro and then start the ttm. Can anyone identify the paracheilinus? Is it a carpenter or mccoskers?

Sorry, one more question, I have egg crate over the quarantine tank, but a real mesh lid over the display tank. Do you think I need to put something finer on top of the egg crate for the month in quarantine or I can get by with just the egg crate. I'm pretty sure the coris could slip through, but I doubt the others would make it.

Thanks!

eatbreakfast · Mar 1, 2017

P. mckoskeri. Only 1 dorsal filament. P. capenteri has 2-4.

Ocelaris · Mar 1, 2017

Thanks!

Breakthecycle2 · Mar 1, 2017

townjas said:
I don't think wrasses do well in copper.

I treat all my wrasses with coppersafe. Unless they stay in too long, or do multiple doses in too quickly, they are fine in it.

Rutrag · Mar 3, 2017

Ocelaris said:
Also, when I introduce them in a month, should I use a social acclimation box for them? I have 2 ocellaris, a yellow tang and a genicanthus Watanabe. How many can I put in a time in the elite aquatics box?

I don't think you have any existing wrasses in your DT or other wrasse-like fish (anthias or dottybacks), and your mix of wrasses has been together in QT, so I personally would not use the acclimation box when you add them. I definitely would for a couple of days far any future wrasse additions.

Ocelaris · Mar 4, 2017

Everybody is out and about except the yellow fin fairy since yesterday and has some stringy white poop so I started api general cure and kanaplex becauae the flasher appears to have a mouth infection. Added an air stone to help with biological filtration as I'm not going to be changing water till I start the ttm when the meds have run their course.

I was going to wait till the second transfer to do the second round, give them time to relax in the new tank.