Fire shrimp killed Cleaner shrimp?

[jayman19]

Hello all,

I have a fire shrimp and a skunk cleaner shrimp. so just today I woke up and noticed that the cleaner shrimp molted. His whiskers got much longer and overall seemed slightly bigger I suppose. When I fed today, he didn’t seem interested like he usually has been( he’s a savage and will jump for food all crazy) when I left to work the guy was hanging out on the rocks, and seemed chilling. An hour and a half later my gf texts me saying he’s layinng on his side/upside down. I had her test my water and all is with in range. Did my fire shrimp kill my skunk cleaner? Or could something have happened during the molt? Just feeling really bummed like I can’t keep things alive.

Ph: 8.4
Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrite: 0ppm
Nitrate: 5ppm
Salinity: 36 ppm

 

[blaxsun]

There can be aggression between fire shrimp and cleaner shrimp, yes. It's recommended to only have one per tank. But this isn't to say this is what happened, either. Your parameters look pretty good - have you tested your phosphates lately?

 

[johnreef]

Hello all,

I have a fire shrimp and a skunk cleaner shrimp. so just today I woke up and noticed that the cleaner shrimp molted. His whiskers got much longer and overall seemed slightly bigger I suppose. When I fed today, he didn’t seem interested like he usually has been( he’s a savage and will jump for food all crazy) when I left to work the guy was hanging out on the rocks, and seemed chilling. An hour and a half later my gf texts me saying he’s layinng on his side/upside down. I had her test my water and all is with in range. Did my fire shrimp kill my skunk cleaner? Or could something have happened during the molt? Just feeling really bummed like I can’t keep things alive.

Ph: 8.4
Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrite: 0ppm
Nitrate: 5ppm
Salinity: 36 ppm

fire are more aggrasive than clener shrimps,no recomment to keep both in a smaller tank, they are ok in a bigger tank as 125 and up,there are lot of hiding spot for them to prevent the fights

 

[FMF0331]

I have 6 cleaner shrimps and 2 fire in shrimps in my 200, plenty of hiding spots and over hang. I guess I got lucky, no casualty yet.

 

[jayman19]

There can be aggression between fire shrimp and cleaner shrimp, yes. It's recommended to only have one per tank. But this isn't to say this is what happened, either. Your parameters look pretty good - have you tested your phosphates lately?

Phosphates about 2 days Were like 0.15 I believe using a Hannah. It was my first time testing phosphates

 

[Timfish]

Things can go wrong with molting and judging by the behavior my guess would be that's what's happened. Shrimps can kill each other but it usually happens when one molts and their exoskeleton is inflating befor it hardens and can't get away. But it sounds like your shrimp was killed a day or two after it molted so I would be inclined to discount predation.

 

[jayman19]

Things can go wrong with molting and judging by the behavior my guess would be that's what's happened. Shrimps can kill each other but it usually happens when one molts and their exoskeleton is inflating befor it hardens and can't get away. But it sounds like your shrimp was killed a day or two after it molted so I would be inclined to discount predation.

What could cause issues issues with with molting? Genuinely curious so I can fix my water if so. I looked at his corpse and it seems most his legs and 2 claws were not apart of him. I did se them earlier but actually thought that was part of the molt..My fire shrimp does seem territorial but I didn’t think him to be killer.

 

[jayman19]

Things can go wrong with molting and judging by the behavior my guess would be that's what's happened. Shrimps can kill each other but it usually happens when one molts and their exoskeleton is inflating befor it hardens and can't get away. But it sounds like your shrimp was killed a day or two after it molted so I would be inclined to discount predation.

Also, he molted 04/13-04/14 night and was dead by 04/14 afternoon. No molt the evening of 04/13 because I
Check each day so I don’t freak out

 

[damsels are not mean]

I think it was just a bad molt. Happens sometimes to any shrimp and usually not something you can prevent afaik. Unless params are off (this is more common in freshwater because in a reef we tend to keep these things more under control and it's hard to have no calcium in the tank or something like that in saltwater).

 

[Keko21]

They’ve only been in the tank (72 gal) for a day but seem to be buddies.