Firetire's 74 Gallon Tower SPS Build

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Hello everybody! I’m a long-time lurker here at R2R, and I am finally getting back into the hobby after 6 years. When I was in college, I had a Biocube 14. Then soon after, when I cracked the back ;Facepalm, I upgraded to a 65G that I found on craigslist. Neither of those tanks were ever spectacular, mainly due to lack of funds and time. When I graduated college, I sold the system and moved back home for my new job.

Now, I am at a great place to set up a new reef system (meaning I finally convinced my wife to let me get a tank). Since we have a 2-year-old, and another kid on the way, my wife and I decided not to have a tank in the main part of the house until they are old enough to be safe around the tank. That said, our house has a fully finished basement that we never use. By never, I mean the only time I go down there is to clean the cat box and do laundry. In the basement, there is a decent sized bedroom with an adjoining bathroom.

I know what you’re thinking. Sounds like a perfect place for a reef setup, with a water mixing station in the bathroom! Or at least that’s what I was thinking. So, I strategically asked my wife if I could use this room for my own little piece of underwater heaven, right after I told her that I wanted to take her on a little vacation anywhere she wanted to go. It worked! We’re going on a “babymoon” to Florida in a month, and I am allowed to use the basement bedroom and bathroom for whatever I want.

Then I faced the hard decision of choosing what sort of tank I wanted to start. I’ve always loved the look of a tall tank. They remind me more of a reef wall. So, I was thinking I would do a 150 tall mixed reef. My wife suggested a column tank. She really thinks that would look good. So, then I was thinking a tall cube 24x24x30 tank. I also love the look of a zoa garden. Hmm. That would look cool as a shallow and long tank. I also love the idea of a display refugium with a mangrove or 2.

Well, I’m terrible at deciding, so I am going to go with all 4. And a frag tank just because.

So, I am going to start with a tall cube SPS tank. Specifically, the Deep Blue Tower 74 Rimless. It is going to have a 40 breeder sump, and a 40 breeder display refugium with a mangrove. Yay $1 per gallon sale. I am going to plumb everything to the same sump with the plan to add the 150, the zoa garden, and the frag tank at a later date. Probably one at a time starting at least 6 months after the baby is born. Just so I don’t go insane taking care of a new baby and all those tanks.

You’re probably thinking I should just get one big tank. That’s boring. And I currently cannot get one into the basement. Maybe in a few years when I “need” to install a bigger window to “get more light in” I can bring a massive display tank into the basement before I install the window. Or maybe when I am remodeling the kitchen, I could cut a hole in the floor to lower a tank down. We’ll see.

So, being an engineer, I have drawn the whole setup in Solidworks. Here’s a render of it.

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Oh yeah, and I’m going to be building my own DIY controller system. All the way from PCB layout up. I’m pretty excited for this part of the build too.

I hope you all enjoy this build as much as I will. Please feel free to chime in with any suggestions or criticisms. Being as inexperienced as I am, I am sure I am already doing something wrong, and I know I will have a lot of questions as the build goes on. I will try to post some pictures of the equipment I have already gotten tonight.
 
Hi and Welcome to R2R,

Can't tell you're an Engineer at all. :p That render is amazing.

Sounds like you'll have a little of everything going on, zoanthid garden, mangroves, cool.
 
Hi and Welcome to R2R,

Can't tell you're an Engineer at all. :p That render is amazing.

Sounds like you'll have a little of everything going on, zoanthid garden, mangroves, cool.

Thanks! It really shows, huh?:D
It really helps to have a bunch of high end servers at work that I can farm out my renders to. That render would've taken hours on my home PC.

Looks like a great plan. Love the Solidworks drawing. Good luck with the build!

Now I just have to make the real system look like the plan. I need all the luck I can get to do that ;)

Welcome! This looks like it's going to be fun to watch.

Thanks! I hope you can enjoy this as much as I've enjoyed all the other build threads here at R2R.
 
Love the drawing. How are you levitating the tanks on the right? Secret ufo tech? Helium balloons?

I’m actually planning on a 20l shallow mangrove tank on a floating shelf in my fishroom. I built a practice shelf in my unfinished basement 4 feet off the ground (2x4 ladder frame, 14 inches deep, 36 inches wide) attached using lag screws spaced 8 inches. The wall has additional 2x10 blocking running horizontally. I sat on it and gave it a little bounce, and it didn’t shift. I’m 220lb...
 
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Love the drawing. How are you levitating the tanks on the right? Secret ufo tech? Helium balloons?

I’m actually planning on a 20l shallow mangrove tank on a floating shelf in my fishroom. I built a practice shelf in my unfinished basement 4 feet off the ground (2x4 ladder frame, 14 inches deep, 36 inches wide) attached using lag screws spaced 8 inches. The wall has additional 2x10 blocking running horizontally. I sat on it and gave it a little bounce, and it didn’t shift. I’m 220lb...

I really wanted to do magnetic levitation. When I couldn't get that to work, I went to Home Depot to see what they had, and I got the Knape & Vogt Diamond Plate Heavyweight wall shelving brackets. I'll be using them for the 40 breeder refugium and the 2 tanks on the right wall. They have a couple different sizes of shelf supports. Either 250lbs per bracket or 500lbs per bracket. Total of up to 2000lbs per wall bracket depending on how many screws you use to hang it. Then I'm going to put 3/4 plywood down as the shelf. With a 20l, you could easily use the smaller brackets.

Just remember, the closer to the wall the tank is, the better. The further out, the more torque on whatever shelf is holding it up. Might be a good idea to have a bit of a lip on the end of the shelf in case it starts to sag at all to keep the tank from slowly sliding towards the edge.
 
Welcome!

Looks cool and following along!

Have you thought about a quarantine system at all and separate from main system?
 
Welcome!

Looks cool and following along!

Have you thought about a quarantine system at all and separate from main system?

I'm definitely going to have a quarantine system. I bought 2 29 gallon tanks and a 10 gallon tank on the $1 per gallon sale with the intention of using one or more of them for quarantine. I haven't really figured out what they're going to look like yet though.
 
This will be an interesting build. Looking forward to seeing the progress.
(Hint): Just don’t get in a hurry. Lol
 
This will be an interesting build. Looking forward to seeing the progress.
(Hint): Just don’t get in a hurry. Lol
I'm going to try as hard as I can not to rush.
 
Time for some pictures! I got almost everything in yesterday. Including most importantly, THE TANK!!!
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In case anyone wonders what comes with the reef ready plumbing kit, here it is. I sure did before I bought the tank.
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Sorry for the poor lighting in the pictures. The tank is in my garage right now.

The tank is everything I expected. It seems to be good quality. It arrived in good shape. The seams look good. I can't wait to get it wet.

Now, while I am happy with the tank, I am not happy with the company I bought it from. I ordered it from fishtanksdirect.com. After I ordered it, I got an email confirming the shipping details. The email started out with this:
"Your aquarium order will ship this Thursday or Friday from our Florida warehouse provided that I receive your delivery instructions back by tomorrow 2pm EST. The freight truck will take approximately 5-7 business days to reach the closest terminal to your address. The shipping company will call you to set up a delivery date once the truck reaches the terminal. I will be emailing you a tracking number as soon as your order leaves so that you can track the shipment."

So yesterday around 2PM, I get a call from the shipping company saying we're at your house, and nobody's home...I had never heard from the company to schedule the delivery date. I explained this to them, and they said that it is an add on service that fishtanksdirect.com didn't pay for. So I tell him that I work half an hour away, so it would be that long until I was home. He starts telling me I will have to come pick it up from their terminal...in Denver...an hour and a half away. So I convince him to come back after a few more deliveries. So I rush out of work, and get home in time.

Now fishtankdirect.com's email also said this:
" The truck will not have a lift gate to lower it to street level. An additional lift gate service can be provided to lower the aquarium to street level at a cost of $75. The life gate service also provides the driver with a pallet jack so the driver can move your order as close to your door as possible provided that the path is unobstructed and has no inclines or stairs, however, the driver will not move your order inside of your home/office. Please let me know if you decide on the lift gate service."

So I responded to their email "please add lift gate service." They never responded, but they shipped the item, and charged my credit card $75 more for the lift gate service. So when the truck gets to my house, I see no lift gate. So I explain to this driver, and he shows me the waybill. fishtanksdirect.com never paid them for the lift gate service. Now fortunately the driver was very kind and helpful. He helped lift the tank down, and he even offered to help me carry it into the house.

That said, I do have a beautiful tank that arrived a week and a half after I ordered it, and intact. So I am happy, just a little irritated.
 
I also got my rock yesterday! I ordered 200lbs from reefcleaners. I was really worried when I saw the boxes. They were soaked, all full of holes, and UPS had taped all over them to patch the holes. But when I opened them up, the rock was in perfect shape.
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Tonight I get to play around with aquascaping! :D:D:D

Here's the 40 breeder for the sump, and 2 29 gallons for quarantine
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And here's the other 40 Breeder for the mangrove tank
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I got some gate valves
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And my salt
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Test kits;Woot
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Algae Scraper!
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Lighting was probably the biggest dilemma on this build. Do I go with LEDs only? Do I supplement with t5s? Which LED do I want for such a deep tank? Do I do a DIY LED? So of course, I asked all of you wise reefers here. The fist suggestion I got, from @crabs_mcjones , was 2 Kessil a360NEs. I love the look of Kessils, and the narrow lens sounds great for a deep tank like this. This was sort of where I expected the suggestions to point me. Then I got a suggestion for the Orphek Atlantik v4 from @OLDREEFER44. That one really threw me for a loop. Especially since there was a BRS review video with it on a 24x24 cube. It was a really tough decision. So what did I go with? See for yourself:
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It was really close though. If BRS had had the Orphek's in stock, it may have won the battle. I did find these for a great deal on ebay "used". I put the quotes because I wouldn't have known they were used if I hadn't been told. The cords were all still neatly coiled up in the box. I suspect they were customer returns that were open box but not used. I'll never know. Either way, they were almost $100 off of new price each. You will probably see an Orphek or 2 on the 150 when I get to it though ;)

Flow was another big decision. The main decision came down to cheap Chinese pumps & powerheads or expensive quality ones. Cheap Chinese won that battle as far as the return pump goes. So for the return pump, I got a Jebao DCP-10000.
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And for the powerheads, well I'll tell you when they arrive :)

I decided to drill the mangrove tank, so I picked up this overflow box.
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For the RO/DI, I ended up going with the RO Buddie. From what I have read, I will probably regret this decision. But for now it's what I have.
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One thing that I am really excited about it this:
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With my previous tanks, I was really bad about doing water changes on a consistent schedule. I hope this works as well as I expect.
 

IF YOU HAD TO TAKE A REEFING EXAM, WOULD YOU PASS?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 32 45.7%
  • Not yet, but I have one that I want to buy in mind!

    Votes: 9 12.9%
  • No.

    Votes: 26 37.1%
  • Other (please explain).

    Votes: 3 4.3%

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