I recently got a sebae anenome from a lfs. I had him for a few days and then returned him because he would bounce around my tank at night. Long story short I had the owner of the lfs come look at my tank. Seems that I didn't have any prime real estate for an anenome to like. Well he fixed me up and rearranged some rocks to where he would hopefully like it. It's been 7 days since he has been put in and has not come out of the cave into the light. My clowns host him and he has been fed. Will it die if he doesn't come out or should I move it? Water perams were all fine. He said I had .25 or. 15 phosphates. But looking at his color chart 0 and up to .25 looked the same. Any advice?
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I would give the individual that assisted you a call. Yes the anemone needs to be out in the light, the question is why has the anemone not moved out on it's one. Sebae are notoriously hard to acclimate and not the ideal first anemone. In the image the anemone appears bleached, not a welcome sign.
You have to decide if you want to tear apart your scape to provide some light to the anemone, since this is your 1st anemone and you had someone offer guidance I would contact that individual again.
If this anemone fails try a LTA next time or a BTA.
Good Luck
You have to decide if you want to tear apart your scape to provide some light to the anemone, since this is your 1st anemone and you had someone offer guidance I would contact that individual again.
If this anemone fails try a LTA next time or a BTA.
Good Luck
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I spoke to him and he said I can move it if I want. He said that it's fine and to let it chill out in the cave. The anenome does look like it comes out of the cave a little but a short time later it goes back into it and anchors itself between a rock and my glass. Are there any signs of distress that I can look for incase it cannot free itself from the rock on its own. Like if it's wedged in and is stuck
Anemones really only get stuck to power heads. Anemones go where the flow, light, neighbors are right for that anemone. A bleached anemone is of concern. When moving an anemone go slow and take care not to damage the foot/pedistal/column.
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I just tried to move him more into the light. Well that suckered has his foot wedged wayyyy in the rock. He's wrapped I'm self around it almost. So I'm gonna leave him be for now. Now for the bleaching issue, he's a white Seba with blue tips. If he is white how do you know if it is bleached? The fish store had just got more assorted Sebae anenomies in and they are all some shade of white.
Sebae are varied in coloration, usually more cream than translucent or true white.
If an anemone is not readily removed it's best to try to get it to move, more flow usually works.
Sounds like your making some progress, just keep researching and researching. Hopefully Trex will wander by.
If an anemone is not readily removed it's best to try to get it to move, more flow usually works.
Sounds like your making some progress, just keep researching and researching. Hopefully Trex will wander by.
Amoo
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What kind of light was in the system it came from?
What kind of light do you have and what is your lighting schedule and intensities?
How did you light acclimate this Nem to your lighting?
This is where I would start personally.
What kind of light do you have and what is your lighting schedule and intensities?
How did you light acclimate this Nem to your lighting?
This is where I would start personally.
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He was under "shop" lights at the lfs. Now he is under a current marine orbit system blues are at 100 and whites are at 85. Lights are on from 1030 to 7. Then actinic for 2 hours after. I'm assuming he hasn't moved out of his cave possibly because my lights are brighter than what he is used of?
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It's entirely possible. I'm not too familiar with the Current Orbit stuff, but I have heard folks having trouble with things beyond basic softies with that light. Not to say that light can't work, I just don't know much about it. Regardless though LEDs are bright, T5s or shop lights are bright also, but in a different way, kind of. Anytime you move any type of coral or anemone in this hobby from one kind of lighting to another it's advisable to follow some good light acclimation protocol.
I'm taking a complete shot in the dark here as I don't know a ton about that light or exactly what it came from and how long it was there, but trying a 30% intensity reduction and raise them back 10% a week. I would at least try it for a couple of days and see how it responds.
Because that Nem you have there is extremely bleached, even lights that aren't super powerful are going to feel much stronger to that nem then they actually are.
Now personally, if it was me, I honestly would take that Nem back to the store, and get my money back as that Nem is severely bleached and shouldn't have been sold to you in hat condition in the first place. I commend the shop owner for at least coming over and trying to help you find a spot for it in your tank, but he honestly set you up for failure with that purchase.
I'm taking a complete shot in the dark here as I don't know a ton about that light or exactly what it came from and how long it was there, but trying a 30% intensity reduction and raise them back 10% a week. I would at least try it for a couple of days and see how it responds.
Because that Nem you have there is extremely bleached, even lights that aren't super powerful are going to feel much stronger to that nem then they actually are.
Now personally, if it was me, I honestly would take that Nem back to the store, and get my money back as that Nem is severely bleached and shouldn't have been sold to you in hat condition in the first place. I commend the shop owner for at least coming over and trying to help you find a spot for it in your tank, but he honestly set you up for failure with that purchase.
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When I get home I'm gonna see if he moved more twords the entrance of the cave and see if I can get a hold of him. Last night he had his foot on the underside of a rock where I couldn't get too. Is there a way for me to nurse him back to health?
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The short answer is yes.
The long answer is it's not something a beginning anemone keeper should have to put up with. You spent your money and deserve a quality specimen. At the same time, it is partially your own fault for not doing enough research from the start, but the important thing is you looked for help when something went wrong and found a place where you can learn a lot by just looking around or asking. I honestly can't tell from your picture if it is completely or has any Zoos left at all. If it's completely bleached it would need a Zoo transplant (basically you feed it Zoos from another Nem). It also needs to pretty skilled/experienced lighting treatment at this point. You would need to play around with your lights a few days at a time, to see if you can even get him to a position where he will come out and receive light. Honestly not something that should be done inside a DT and is reserved more for a QT.
The easiest thing you can try is what I mentioned before with lowering the intensity of your lighting assuming it won't have a negative effect on anything else in your tank. So yes there is a way, but even experienced Nem keepers have trouble nursing severely bleached Nems back to health.
The long answer is it's not something a beginning anemone keeper should have to put up with. You spent your money and deserve a quality specimen. At the same time, it is partially your own fault for not doing enough research from the start, but the important thing is you looked for help when something went wrong and found a place where you can learn a lot by just looking around or asking. I honestly can't tell from your picture if it is completely or has any Zoos left at all. If it's completely bleached it would need a Zoo transplant (basically you feed it Zoos from another Nem). It also needs to pretty skilled/experienced lighting treatment at this point. You would need to play around with your lights a few days at a time, to see if you can even get him to a position where he will come out and receive light. Honestly not something that should be done inside a DT and is reserved more for a QT.
The easiest thing you can try is what I mentioned before with lowering the intensity of your lighting assuming it won't have a negative effect on anything else in your tank. So yes there is a way, but even experienced Nem keepers have trouble nursing severely bleached Nems back to health.
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Was it the anemone is the middle of your picture?
Hard to tell from it, but it appears more like an E. quadricolor than an H. crispa. Either way, it is very very bleached.
FYI --- white H. crispas (( common name "Sebae" can also refer to H. malu )) are bleached. They seem natural because they are commonly sold that way, but should be tan in color.
Is it possible to get a better picture?
Hard to tell from it, but it appears more like an E. quadricolor than an H. crispa. Either way, it is very very bleached.
FYI --- white H. crispas (( common name "Sebae" can also refer to H. malu )) are bleached. They seem natural because they are commonly sold that way, but should be tan in color.
Is it possible to get a better picture?
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Yes I will take a better picture of him once I get home. And the crazy part is that all my lfs have these "white" Sebae anenomes. They are all white except for the condi and bta that they carry. And they even use different distributors.
