First tank suggestions

Also, do you have a preference of rimmed vs rimless? Rimless has a more modern, clean look, but they’re also generally a lot more $.
I like the rimless but don't know if there are any disadvantages to them besides the price. Do they last as long as traditional aquariums? I have a budget but don't plan on buying another one anytime soon so want a good quality one and one I will be happy with
 
Welcome! I just started with the hobby myself in November with a 40 gallon AIO cube tank. I was really unsure whether I should go with the AIO or pick up a 40 breeder to start and really think I chose wrong, so I'd totally recommend either starting with a 40 breeder or a 75 if you have the budget for that scale. Both tanks are currently on sale at Petco for a good price or you can often find deals on used ones through facebook marketplace or a local club.

They also now make a 60 breeder which is a 4 foot version of the 40 breeder (aka a shorter 75 gallon)
 
Keep an eye on Facebook groups from your area. You can get a great deal sometimes. I don't know the answer to this, but see if a "everything included" reef ready tank will cost less then buying things separately.

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For a brand new reefer a 75g drilled tank with sump is the perfect choice in my opinion. The 18'' width front to back allows for a fairly nice looking rock scape, while the relatively small water volume makes it easier and more feasible to change a greater % of the water should things start heading in the wrong direction as they did for me and most new reefers.

If it were me, I would either look at getting an already used system or have one custom made by glasscages.com

Good luck!!
 
Buying used can save you a ton of money. Just be smart about it. They are selling for a reason. The biggest, in my opinion, thing to watch for is home-brew plumbing setups on sump systems. Hopefully it will still be running when you check it out. I know a couple of people that bought home-brews that got burned. One had to be completely re-plumbed because as designed it was very noisy and the other was just a poor design all the way around. That one just got tossed out. Not to say home-brews can't be good, they can be much better than all-inclusives when done right. Just try to see the tank while it is still running or try to have someone more knowledgeable check it out for you. Usually an AIO will be fine used, just check for cracks, nicks, etc. and offer accordingly.
 
Welcome! The people are great here!

I might be on the opposite opinion from most on this thread, but seeing you haven't had any sort of aquarium, you might want to go a little smaller. 30-40 gallons. I have 17 years experience in freshwater with tanks up to 150 gallons. I just bought my first saltwater tank 2 months ago. A used, Fluval 32.5 AIO. Originally I bought stuff for a 75 gallon, but the expense killed that so I sold most everything and finally bit the bullet and got the 32.5. I am really, really glad I'm starting with this size. It's very manageable. I'm not quick at making saltwater. Doing a 5 gallon wc is one thing, but if I had to make 20 or more gallons every week it would definitely take a lot longer. Freshwater is so easy. Saltwater isn't crazy hard once you get the hang of things, but there is a lot more to consider and the learning curve is much steeper.
Lastly, you don't know if you're going to like it or not so spending big money on a large tank may or may not be beneficial in the end. In my opinion, 30-40 gallons is the perfect starting size. Large enough for decent stability and room to do a fair amount, but small enough you can spend thousands vs tens of thousands and just easier for general maintenance, cleaning, etc.
 
Buying used can save you a ton of money. Just be smart about it. They are selling for a reason. The biggest, in my opinion, thing to watch for is home-brew plumbing setups on sump systems. Hopefully it will still be running when you check it out. I know a couple of people that bought home-brews that got burned. One had to be completely re-plumbed because as designed it was very noisy and the other was just a poor design all the way around. That one just got tossed out. Not to say home-brews can't be good, they can be much better than all-inclusives when done right. Just try to see the tank while it is still running or try to have someone more knowledgeable check it out for you. Usually an AIO will be fine used, just check for cracks, nicks, etc. and offer accordingly.
I was thinking I would probably buy the tank and sump new but then maybe try and find the filter and all the other stuff used? Don't know if that makes sense. I don't necessarily want to buy one already set up because I want to choose everything and don't want to kill their fish when I move it. However buying one that is empty worries me.
 
I was thinking I would probably buy the tank and sump new but then maybe try and find the filter and all the other stuff used? Don't know if that makes sense. I don't necessarily want to buy one already set up because I want to choose everything and don't want to kill their fish when I move it. However buying one that is empty worries me.

Read through these sticky threads in the "New to Saltwater & Reed Aquariums? Post Here" forum...they'll give you a TON of useful information before you spend any money or finalize any decisions.




 
And after that, at least skim through the first posts in the sticky threads at the top of these forums:

 
Welcome to the best reef of folks! I love my Seapora 40 breeder, low iron rimless tank with a 20 gallon Aqueon tank for the sump. It was approximately half the price of a Glasscages tank. With the cost of everything going up (including my much higher water bill this month), I am happy I did not get larger. Suggest you read Ron Reefman's articles here. He has great advice for deciding.

 
Read through these sticky threads in the "New to Saltwater & Reed Aquariums? Post Here" forum...they'll give you a TON of useful information before you spend any money or finalize any decisions.




Thank you!!!
 
I’d also recommend checking out a few build threads for inspiration on what types of tanks you like the look of. You can find specific user’s build threads by clicking the “build thread” badge underneath their username.
 
I have never had any sort of aquarium at all. However, I really want around a 75 gallon with fish and coral. Is this a bad idea? Should I start with something smaller? I don't want to get in over my head but also don't want to spend a lot on something smaller and then want to upgrade. Any suggestions?
Welcome! Start as big as you can easily afford. Don't rush to stock the livestock take your time. You can learn as you go..read...research...ask questions. You'll be fine. I wish I had started big it would have saved me so much money.
 
First off.. Welcome to the Dark Side...

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Now, let me share some personal experience. I have had Fw tanks for most of the last 35 years. When I decided to go with SW I had already spent many months reading, watching videos and learning all I could. I converted my 55g FW tank to SW. I used most of the same equipment on this tank as I had when it was FW so very little expense there initially. New rock, substrate and lights were all I needed.

Later I got a great deal on a used 180G tank. This setup became a Fish only setup as I wanted fish that I knew would not be suitable for a 55g mixed reef.

Later, after several months of success with the 55 and 180, I decided I wanted a nano tank so I pulled the trigger on a 32g Biocube. This tank has been such a major pain in the umm posterior. I am honestly about ready to tear it down and sell it. The enjoyment from it is not outweighed by the extra attention it needs to keep it stable. You might think that 20 gallons difference is minor, but in this case I can say that YES it is!!

The general consensus here on your question is "Bigger is better" I fully concur. Yes, it costs more to set up, but the stability of a larger system will, in the long run, give you the confidence to expand your envelope. If you get a smaller tank, and spend all of your time battling stability issues, you will very likely become discouraged and quit the hobby.

This hobby is challenging in its way, but it is also quite simple as well. As an absolute beginner of any aquarium system, my advice is to not add to your challenges by trying to start with what is inherently an unstable system right out of the box.
 

IF YOU HAD TO TAKE A REEFING EXAM, WOULD YOU PASS?

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