Fish breathing fast?

immaman2011 · Jul 31, 2022

AydenLincoln said:
That sounds more like velvet possible. Ick and flukes typically take more time to kill a fish/show major symptoms. What are you using to test your water?

Velvet....does that look like a hazy tint of grey on the scales of a royal gramma? I got it from petco like that I just thought it was a bad gene pool

1ocean · Jul 31, 2022

Do you have a lot of fish in the tank? Does your sump create enough water turbulence to aerate the water.. do you have a refug? if so during the day a refug when the lights are on the use carbon and release oxygen. AT night or when the lights are off refug use oxygen and release co2.
Also a low ph or sudden shift in ph can cause stress or possible kill fish and corals.
Also a low ph value is an indicator of possible low oxygen and a high carbon dioxide level.
I am just offering ideas to help but it still could be a parasite etc...

AydenLincoln · Jul 31, 2022

immaman2011 said:
Velvet....does that look like a hazy tint of grey on the scales of a royal gramma? I got it from petco like that I just thought it was a bad gene pool

It could be velvet then if it looks like a white ish colored film on them and it kills so quickly. Refer to the link/photos.

AydenLincoln · Jul 31, 2022

1ocean said:
Do you have a lot of fish in the tank? Does your sump create enough water turbulence to aerate the water.. do you have a refug? if so during the day a refug when the lights are on the use carbon and release oxygen. AT night or when the lights are off refug use oxygen and release co2.
Also a low ph or sudden shift in ph can cause stress or possible kill fish and corals.
Also a low ph value is an indicator of possible low oxygen and a high carbon dioxide level.
I am just offering ideas to help but it still could be a parasite etc...

It could be that too. Which would mean you need to increase oxygenation by moving a powerhead or increasing the flow.

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fishguy242 · Jul 31, 2022

immaman2011 said:
Velvet....does that look like a hazy tint of grey on the scales of a royal gramma? I got it from petco like that I just thought it was a bad gene pool

do you have airstone ?

immaman2011 · Jul 31, 2022

fishguy242 said:
do you have airstone ?

I just added a small air stone with a powerful adjustable pump and set it high settings.

immaman2011 · Jul 31, 2022

fishguy242 said:
do you have airstone ?

I don't have a refuge or a sump. I have a canister filter though. I have a powerhead and a strong filter outlet. But I also added the air stone. I also have a uv pump creating movement as well.

fishguy242 · Jul 31, 2022

now put that in front of wavemaker/powerhead /return . best advice i can give rt now

immaman2011 · Jul 31, 2022

fishguy242 said:
now put that in front of wavemaker/powerhead /return . best advice i can give rt now

So the air stone is creating a thick bubble patch on top is that going to be okay? I put it in front of the wavemaker like you said.

AydenLincoln · Jul 31, 2022

immaman2011 said:
So the air stone is creating a thick bubble patch on top is that going to be okay? I put it in front of the wavemaker like you said.

Yes that’s normal it’s air bubbles or any residual additives causing it to foam a little.

fishguy242 · Jul 31, 2022

are you seeing micro bubbles throughout tank also ?

immaman2011 · Jul 31, 2022

AydenLincoln said:
Yes that’s normal it’s air bubbles or any residual additives causing it to foam a little.

I put the air stone in and now all the fish seem to be coming out. Maybe that's a good sign? But the royal gramma is still breathing heavy on its side. I also might be feeding them wrong. How should I feed them with flake and frozen? I've been putting half a block of Hikari and a little bit of flake each feed. Is that too much?

immaman2011 · Jul 31, 2022

fishguy242 said:
are you seeing micro bubbles throughout tank also ?

Yes.

1ocean · Jul 31, 2022

immaman2011 said:
I don't have a refuge or a sump. I have a canister filter though. I have a powerhead and a strong filter outlet. But I also added the air stone. I also have a uv pump creating movement as well.

all good stuff but unless there is some agitation allowing the introduction of O2 into the water it is just water moving around, this is good but lacks adding O2 in the water. In most sumps, the first chamber, where water from the tank enters the sump causes agitation, causes air bubbles which help introduce O2 into the water...
If you're going to use a powerhead to add air to the water, you will have to deal with salt creep. I hope this helps...

AydenLincoln · Jul 31, 2022

immaman2011 said:
I put the air stone in and now all the fish seem to be coming out. Maybe that's a good sign? But the royal gramma is still breathing heavy on its side. I also might be feeding them wrong. How should I feed them with flake and frozen? I've been putting half a block of Hikari and a little bit of flake each feed. Is that too much?

Yea that’s too much they need the smallest amount of food and the rest just turns into excess nutrients. Teen tiny amounts and if they come back add a little more. Less food is always better. Dry foods also tend to spike nutrients easier.

fishguy242 · Jul 31, 2022

let's worry about keeping them alive for the moment
what size tank is this ?
do you have water avail for water change ?

immaman2011 · Jul 31, 2022

1ocean said:
all good stuff but unless there is some agitation allowing the introduction of O2 into the water it is just water moving around, this is good but lacks adding O2 in the water. In most sumps, the first chamber, where water from the tank enters the sump causes agitation, causes air bubbles which help introduce O2 into the water...
If you're going to use a powerhead to add air to the water, you will have to deal with salt creep. I hope this helps...

What exactly is salt creep?

immaman2011 · Jul 31, 2022

AydenLincoln said:
Yea that’s too much they need the smallest amount of food and the rest just turns into excess nutrients. Teen tiny amounts and if they come back add a little more. Less food is always better. Dry foods also tend to spike nutrients easier.

Alright noted

1ocean · Jul 31, 2022

AydenLincoln said:
Yea that’s too much they need the smallest amount of food and the rest just turns into excess nutrients. Teen tiny amounts and if they come back add a little more. Less food is always better. Dry foods also tend to spike nutrients easier.

yes what ever they can eat in a few minutes is best. And do it in a few little feedings during that time.