Fish Help Please

[Reefermarkcid]

Hey all, I have a few questions I'd love some help with. I've had my tank running for almost a year now. The tank is a 45 cube. Its stable and there are no water perimeter issues.I have had two clown fish (Tank raised) in the tank the entire time...they are bullet proof. Over the past 9-11 months I've had flames hawks, angel fish, and a few gobies in the tank only to die within a few weeks to a few months at most. Is this normal? I don't quarantine, not sure the cheapest way to do this and if I did, how to treat a fish before placing him in my display. Not sure if my water has ick or any other diseases parasites....any thoughts? I don't want to keep buying fish only to die so soon. Is there a fish dip I coil buy? Or should I use another method? The clowns are good swimming around very healthy..just not sure where to go from here?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

 

[Big G]

Here's a link to a complete how to quarantine by our own Humblefish: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/how-to-quarantine.189815/

 

[Big G]

Can you recall any symptoms the fish displayed before passing?

 

[Maritimer]

Can you recall any symptoms the fish displayed before passing?

This.

Additionally, it's very possible that you _have_ got ich or other disease in your tank, but the fish who've been there for a long time (clownfish) have developed a resistance. Any new fish can be quickly overwhelmed. Best bet would be to set up a QT, remove all fish from your display, treat for whatever disease is rearing its ugly head and keep all fish out of the display (fallow) for 6 weeks (if the problem is Brooklynella or velvet) to 76 days (which also covers ich.)

~Bruce

 

[Reefermarkcid]

I saw my midas blend who dies recently swimming up really fast..shaking a bit like something was on him..other than no, I didn't see any weird behavior

 

[Big G]

Twitching is a symptom of velvet or ich. Sorry to say sounds like your tank is infected with either ich or velvet parasites. Best course of treatment is as Maritimer suggested previously. Clownfish have a thick mucous coat that gives them the ability sometimes to resist either ich or velvet. But they become carriers of the disease and are Typhoid Mary's, infecting every fish that comes into contact.

 

[Big G]

Marine Velvet is rampant in the industry these days. Here's another link that should give you all the info you need to get your fish healthy: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/velvet-amyloodinium-ocellatum.217570/#post-2499399

 

[4FordFamily]

Marine Velvet is rampant in the industry these days. Here's another link that should give you all the info you need to get your fish healthy: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/velvet-amyloodinium-ocellatum.217570/#post-2499399

This is my guess based on your timeline.

 

[JaaxReef]

If you are having a hard time seeing visible symptoms, I would look into flukes. The head shaking could certainly be an indicator. Had it my my display tank when I bought Anthias. Quarantined for 3 weeks and thought they were fine after observation. Didn’t realize they had it and introduced it into my tank. My clowns were almost completely unaffected, but other fish suffered faster. I treated with Prazi Pro and it’s gone and I’ve had no more issues with my fish.

Were the other fish you had eating ok?

 

[Big G]

Here's a link to a complete plan for setting up a quarantine to get and keep your tank and fish healthy. Hope this helps!
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/how-to-quarantine.189815/

 

[melypr1985]

I agree with velvet as an educated guess. The time line and the weird behavior are a few clues to go by. If you want to add any other fish aside from the two clowns you already have to the tank I suggest removing the clowns to treat in QT and leave the display fallow for a minimum of 6 weeks or 76 days to be safe from all parasites. The link posted already is a great one to get started. Best of luck!

 

[JaaxReef]

I’ve had Marine Velvet once in the past and I definitely had visibile symptoms before death. 48 hours of gasping for air, swimming into the powerhead for air, and that classic golden sheen and tiny spots. But could just be the strain I had.

 

[Maritimer]

Those are the "classic" symptoms - but velvet has also been known to kill without physical symptoms, which is why behavioral symptoms such as the swimming into a powerhead you mentioned can be _so_ important.

~Bruce

 

[ngoodermuth]

Another thing to consider, what kind of clownfish do you have? If they are one of the more aggressive types (maroon for example) a pair could easily claim a cube that size as their own and harass new additions.

Otherwise, I agree you probably have some sort of parasites lurking. Velvet is very likely, but it wouldn't be a bad idea to do a freshwater dip on one of the clowns to check for flukes as well.