Fish just kinda laying there ?

[flobup]

So one of my dwarf angels is jsut kinda laying beside a rock not really moving. He didn’t even come out to eat, do I need to get him out ?

 

[James M]

Do you have a QT set up

 

[flobup]

Well I Jair checked my amoniona and if looks like it’s at .25 which is odd

 

[flobup]

I don’t have a QT unfortunately

 

[4FordFamily]

Dwarf angels are immensely sensitive to ammonia.

If you don't QT, I also highly suspect you may have parasites. With dwarf angels it's likely velvet or uronema...

Pics would help us nail it down for you.

 

[ngoodermuth]

I would do a water change to address the ammonia first and foremost. Maybe add a bacteria-in-a-bottle product to help boost your biofilter.

Then, I’ll +1 with a photo or video maybe helping to determine if there is something else going on.

Any visible symptoms? Heavy breathing? Sores/spots? Red gills? White-stringy poop? Bloating? Etc...

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Which ammonia test kit are you using? Is the Angel breathing heavy? Any spots or anything unusual?

 

[flobup]

I had to leave to go to work unfortunately but I’ll do a 20% water change when I get home? He looked fine yesterday but when the lights went off I saw him just laying beside a rock not in his usual spot lol also should add I just put a new fish in like a week sgo and I saw him scratching his body off the works which I thought was odd

 

[flobup]

Which ammonia test kit are you using? Is the Angel breathing heavy? Any spots or anything unusual?

Couldn’t really tell to be honest the lights were still off and it was dark. he was jsut kinda swimming in place

 

[4FordFamily]

I had to leave to go to work unfortunately but I’ll do a 20% water change when I get home? He looked fine yesterday but when the lights went off I saw him just laying beside a rock not in his usual spot lol also should add I just put a new fish in like a week sgo and I saw him scratching his body off the works which I thought was odd

Scratching is generally ich, velvet, or flukes. I'd locate a quarantine tank.

How long has your display tank been set up?

 

[ngoodermuth]

also should add I just put a new fish in like a week sgo and I saw him scratching his body off the works which I thought was odd

This is definitely a sign of parasites

It could be flukes, a 5-minute freshwater dip would tell for sure. Could also be ich/velvet...

 

[flobup]

i would say around 3 months. I always check my ammonia levels after adding new fish, I only have 5, and it’s always zero .

 

[flobup]

So should I go buy a small QT tank ?

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

So should I go buy a small QT tank ?

I would definitely set up a qt and get ready to treat your fish (all of them). I would do a 5 min FW dip on the way to QT to check for flukes. If no flukes I would treat for velvet with copper power at 1.75ppm for 30 days or 14 days with transfer to a sterile tank. This will cover ich and velvet.

If flukes are present treat with Prazi twice 5-7 days apart (I would do in QT also).
You can also knock out any internal parasites with either metro or General Cure +Focus +food fed for 14 days.
Unless you know for sure it’s not ich I would leave the DT fallow for 76 days to cover all possibilities.

 

[ngoodermuth]

So should I go buy a small QT tank ?

Wouldn’t be bad to have. If you can catch a fish for a freshwater dip, you could check for flukes first. Flukes could be treated with prazi pro in your display. Anything else, would require a QT.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/freshwater-dip.248898/

 

[flobup]

It died

 

[flobup]

I did a 20% water change. All other fish look normal