Fish stops eating then dies, then another then another

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Hi!

So been noticing that fishes that once had voracious appetite suddenly stops eating and then starve to death. If it was a one off, I would chalk it up to some illness, but it has been happening every few weeks now and I am at a loss.

Any thoughts?
 
I would chalk it up to an illness. Flukes maybe.

Here is what would help before the medics show up.

Tank size
Parameters
Tank inhabitants
How long the fish were in the tank
Last added fish
Did you QT?

As well as the most important:

Other symptoms of disease?
Pictures under white light
 
Gill flukes, velvet and even low oxygen are general reasons this may happen as gills will be affected by the above listed. With flukes, you will see fish red or swollen with rapid breathing, fish acting lethargic or swimming near the water surface, hiding in the corner of tank or behind rocks, loss of appetite, shaking its head, flashing/darting, develop clamped fins, , or scratching against objects. They may also exhibit what looks like yawning from gill irritation develop, cloudy eyes and loss of color prior to loss. with low oxygen, gasping at surface, loss of appetite, lethargic, hiding and labored breathing.
With velvet, fish will scratch body against hard objects, lethargic behavior, Loss of appetite and weight loss, Rapid, labored breathing, Fins clamped against the body, and typically stay at the surface of the water, or remain in a position where a steady flow of water is present in the aquarium.
A short video showing remaining fish may lead to clues. I am on a way different time zone and getting sleep soon but Jay will pick this up in the early morning.
 
Hi!

So been noticing that fishes that once had voracious appetite suddenly stops eating and then starve to death. If it was a one off, I would chalk it up to some illness, but it has been happening every few weeks now and I am at a loss.

Any thoughts?

Actually, if it were a one-off, it would be less likely an illness. When multiple fish die with the same symptoms, that often points to a communicable disease.

Flukes are one possibility.

Once we have a complete history and some pictures/video of the tank, we can tell you more.

Jay
 
No further comments other than the above - except the possibility of a toxin in the water or some issue with acclimation - especially if you're getting all the fish from the same source?
 
Sounds pretty classic like internal parasites to me. The voracious appetite is many times a precursor to stopping eating, then dying. The fish graze on the infected poo and it spreads from one fish to the next. Have you noticed any stringy poo, poo sticking to the rear, it can be any color. Treatment would be general cure.
 
Tank size 225+ gal
Parameters High nitrates no ammonia or nitrite
Tank inhabitants multiple species of tangs, triggers, and some angels
How long the fish were in the tank 3 months after the last wipe out
Last added fish 3 months ago
Did you QT? Yes with CP, prazipro and metro
I would chalk it up to an illness. Flukes maybe.

Here is what would help before the medics show up.

Tank size
Parameters
Tank inhabitants
How long the fish were in the tank
Last added fish
Did you QT?

As well as the most important:

Other symptoms of disease?
Pictures under white light
 
Video. Excuse the specs. Turned a pump on earlier to clear up detritus.

I have been running poly filter and now running carbon. I was originally running a 10 inch diameter protein skimmer (forgot the brand, aqua excel?) and added an 8 inch Ice cap skimmer last month. I do have some remnants of biopellets in the tank, which seems to cloud the water every few days. I run ozone to clear up the cloudiness, but it isn't on often.

As mentioned, all fishes went through QT with CP, general cure (not metro), prazipro. I just remember that I did kanaplex and Furan 2. These were all done in a separate system for 8 weeks.

If I remember correctly, the tank has been established for a year and had a wipe out 6 months back from velvet. This is a FOWLR tank. Tank was drained, dried out for a few weeks and resumed.

Thinking I should add a denitrator because of the high nitrate.

Using a simple API test kit:

Nitrate: 40-80 (color started to get hard to

In the video, you can see the clown tang very thing, but with a full belly and some weird growth on the side. There has been scratching, but no ick noticed or velvet. They are experiencing lympo.
 
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Multicolor is on its last breath. It was fine last week and eating without much issues. The trigger is just starving
 

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Sounds like ick.
Looks like ick.
Very common.
Slow deaths.

Unless those spots are on the glass.
 
And..I think I may have found the issue. It looks like Ammonia of .5 or 1 from api test kit...which is kind of strange as this was tested a few days ago without any traces...Would it be ammonia that is affecting it?
 
And..I think I may have found the issue. It looks like Ammonia of .5 or 1 from api test kit...which is kind of strange as this was tested a few days ago without any traces...Would it be ammonia that is affecting it?
Doubt this - for this length of tank being set up - unless some disaster happened - or - there were a huge number of fish added recently (or filter off, etc etc etc)
 
And..I think I may have found the issue. It looks like Ammonia of .5 or 1 from api test kit...which is kind of strange as this was tested a few days ago without any traces...Would it be ammonia that is affecting it?
Unless your pH was sky high - this would likely not be an issue - UNLESS checked after the dead fish was found
 
Also I haven't noticed a lot of heavy breathing unless they are going on a feast for dinner. Please see my response in red.
Gill flukes, velvet and even low oxygen are general reasons this may happen as gills will be affected by the above listed. With flukes, you will see fish red or swollen with rapid breathing Neither, fish acting lethargic I have noticed this or swimming near the water surface None, hiding in the corner of tank or behind rocks Neither, loss of appetite Yes, then they get skinny and die, shaking its head none, flashing/darting none, develop clamped fins I assume this is similar to how an asian fan closes up when not in use? If so, then no, , or scratching against objects every now and then, but usually scratch against the bottom of the tank (bare bottom). They may also exhibit what looks like yawning from gill irritation develop None, cloudy eyes 1 scribble has pop eye like symptoms and bubble in the eye and loss of color prior to loss Most have been hard to tell, but the atlantic blue tang did lose color half of its body then perished. with low oxygen don't see them gasping for air, gasping at surface, loss of appetite yes, lethargic yes, hiding and labored breathing no.
With velvet, fish will scratch body against hard objects, lethargic behavior, Loss of appetite and weight loss, Rapid, labored breathing, Fins clamped against the body, and typically stay at the surface of the water, or remain in a position where a steady flow of water is present in the aquarium. Base on the conversations with you and Jay before, I don't see any signs of velvet.

A short video showing remaining fish may lead to clues. I am on a way different time zone and getting sleep soon but Jay will pick this up in the early morning.
 
There is something unsettling to me about the video - I just can't quite put my finger on it. Lots of fish, but some are thin and some are not. The water seems slightly hazy, and some of the fish are breathing fast. Three redtooth triggers together, but it looks like the smaller one is losing out top some other fish.

Jay
 

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